Discussion Forum > Superfocus3 electronic implementations?
@ Isd I red someone did something like that with two sheets of paper. One was general list i guess and the other was urgent and unfinished. Taskpaper is great but the iphone app is medium it would be better on an ipad. You may use tags to such as keeping project and use @General @urgent and unfinished but the result wil be tha you will not follow the rules ie not going to the next page until the current C2 is over.
May be it would be better to do it with a simple text editor such as macintosh page and 2 columns sync on your ipad, your iphone and your mac or more simple use google doc.
Of course I also like the iphone note app. Even if it is more difficult to cross tasks and i dont know how i could highline tasks. Any way for me it is much faster to do it on paper with a pocket note book using the left page for C1 and the right page for C2. But I will follow with interest your post even if i find that putting stuff on a computer cut my intuition.
May be it would be better to do it with a simple text editor such as macintosh page and 2 columns sync on your ipad, your iphone and your mac or more simple use google doc.
Of course I also like the iphone note app. Even if it is more difficult to cross tasks and i dont know how i could highline tasks. Any way for me it is much faster to do it on paper with a pocket note book using the left page for C1 and the right page for C2. But I will follow with interest your post even if i find that putting stuff on a computer cut my intuition.
February 12, 2011 at 9:49 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
I did a try just for fun about a few task with 2 column tab on google doc
on the mac it is pleasant. The searching is great and fast
but on the iphone it is terrible. The tab are not respected so there is a full mixup of urgent and unfinished task. But there was an advantage of doing this, it clarified my list and there is 1 page instead of 5.
on the mac it is pleasant. The searching is great and fast
but on the iphone it is terrible. The tab are not respected so there is a full mixup of urgent and unfinished task. But there was an advantage of doing this, it clarified my list and there is 1 page instead of 5.
February 12, 2011 at 11:02 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
For what it's worth I'm using OneNote, one page per task, one section per SF page and striving to follow the rules as close as practical. Because there's no crossing out, only moving or deleting, it's a bit fuzzy. But it seems to work. I use a '-' page to represent a division between columns.
February 12, 2011 at 13:00 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
The Day the new rules were released, I had access to computer, but no paper (!).
I set up a two-column table in Apple's Pages (any word processor), and followed the rules exactly, including respecting the notion of individual pages. I have since switched to paper, but keep that file open on my computer to jot ideas that come to me while on the computer.
I set up a two-column table in Apple's Pages (any word processor), and followed the rules exactly, including respecting the notion of individual pages. I have since switched to paper, but keep that file open on my computer to jot ideas that come to me while on the computer.
February 12, 2011 at 13:22 |
DS
DS
I am effectively Looking for a method on ipod touch/iphone because I can use it anywhere. I can't use the ipad or computer as easily (imagine a train full of people and nowhere to sit, I am in this situation more than 1 hour per day and need to make it productive).
I have modified slightly my use of taskpaper but for have tried a lot of different applications and event some very good text editors (like iText Pad) taskpaper is still the est choice I think, for the following reasons;
-you can CROSS tasks and even uncross them, and they stay crossed on the page, like on paper.
-you can use tags but you're not forces to. I am mainly using tags for home and work contexts for the moment ( so I stopped using full pages for these contexts, which was cumbersome. And now I write all the page on the same sheet of taskpaper so I can easily use home and work tags)
So, well for the moment the only drawback is that I have to count the number of tasks for deciding when I should write on the next page.
And I guss te next big problem I will have would be the same on paper : should I live with this SAF list or choose time blocks to work on it? Outside these time blocks I would do whatever I want, and I would call this "real" free time?
I have modified slightly my use of taskpaper but for have tried a lot of different applications and event some very good text editors (like iText Pad) taskpaper is still the est choice I think, for the following reasons;
-you can CROSS tasks and even uncross them, and they stay crossed on the page, like on paper.
-you can use tags but you're not forces to. I am mainly using tags for home and work contexts for the moment ( so I stopped using full pages for these contexts, which was cumbersome. And now I write all the page on the same sheet of taskpaper so I can easily use home and work tags)
So, well for the moment the only drawback is that I have to count the number of tasks for deciding when I should write on the next page.
And I guss te next big problem I will have would be the same on paper : should I live with this SAF list or choose time blocks to work on it? Outside these time blocks I would do whatever I want, and I would call this "real" free time?
February 12, 2011 at 15:39 |
isd
isd
If font is small enough, I'd suggest column 1 is full when the screen is full. Column 2 is one full screen down.
February 12, 2011 at 15:50 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
I gona try. The idea of having task everywhere such as "a train full of people" which happen frequently in the parisian metro is interesting. Let's see.
But if I undesstand the global list C1 how do you do with C2 and how do you Dissmiss and highline ?
But if I undesstand the global list C1 how do you do with C2 and how do you Dissmiss and highline ?
February 12, 2011 at 16:34 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
The only way i found is to create
P1 :
New task :
- XXXXX @Home
- YYYYY @Work
Urgent & Unfinished :
Dismiss :
P2 :
New task :
Urgent & Unfinished :
Dissmiss :
and one page per screen.
P1 :
New task :
- XXXXX @Home
- YYYYY @Work
Urgent & Unfinished :
Dismiss :
P2 :
New task :
Urgent & Unfinished :
Dissmiss :
and one page per screen.
February 12, 2011 at 16:56 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
No way for me. Task paper doesnt suit to me i dont like the way it works for this. Google doc is much better or every text editor like .page. But for me there are only two way for the moment PAPER or PAPER. If I reconize i could work on a text editor I prefer paper as i already said digital cut my intuition;
February 12, 2011 at 17:51 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
I've been using a spreadsheet on Office (but any spreadsheet program should work).
I use one sheet for my SF3 tasks. I can easily read about 20 lines on a sheet at a time on my iPod or any computer I might use Google Docs on, so I have "pages" of 20 entries each.
I set my column widths so I can see two columns at any time--this is the C1 & C2 for a page. I put a header row in at the top to say Page1 1b Page 2 2b so I can keep track of what page I'm on. I scroll to the side to get to the next page--it's quicker than switching sheets, although that would work too.
When I work on a task, to mark it completed I change the alignment to Right Align (for some reason Office doesn't have strikethrough. Other spreadsheets might). If it wasn't completed & needs to go into column 2 of the next page or if it's a recurring task that needs to go to the end of the list (eg the new daily habits I'm trying to form) I copy it (before I change the alignment) and paste it wherever it needs to go.
I use other pages when I have a project that requires more info (tasks that I don't want to forget but aren't ready to be done, my iPod book reading rotation (to mix fun and hard reading), etc...) Some of those pages are entered with project names in the SF3 list and I go to that page when I see the name and others serve as feeder lists. I mark the column header of the page I'm on in bold since Office doesn't keep that steady if you switch sheets.
I haven't had to dismiss a page yet, but if I did I would change the fill of those two columns to some bright color.
One problem with working in Office on an iPod is trying to change large numbers of cells at once. Luckily, it's easy enough to switch over to Google Docs and do that type of editing there.
I'm at 5 active pages right now. 2 are down to less than 5 tasks in C1. I think that getting very many more might be difficult. I may wind up deleting all the completed tasks and consolidating my active columns at some point soon, just to avoid having 10 pages with most having less than a quarter of the tasks active.
So long as I follow the rules, this works much better than any other of Mark's systems that I've tried (before this, the best for me was DWM). The hard part, of course, is making myself follow the rules :)
I use one sheet for my SF3 tasks. I can easily read about 20 lines on a sheet at a time on my iPod or any computer I might use Google Docs on, so I have "pages" of 20 entries each.
I set my column widths so I can see two columns at any time--this is the C1 & C2 for a page. I put a header row in at the top to say Page1 1b Page 2 2b so I can keep track of what page I'm on. I scroll to the side to get to the next page--it's quicker than switching sheets, although that would work too.
When I work on a task, to mark it completed I change the alignment to Right Align (for some reason Office doesn't have strikethrough. Other spreadsheets might). If it wasn't completed & needs to go into column 2 of the next page or if it's a recurring task that needs to go to the end of the list (eg the new daily habits I'm trying to form) I copy it (before I change the alignment) and paste it wherever it needs to go.
I use other pages when I have a project that requires more info (tasks that I don't want to forget but aren't ready to be done, my iPod book reading rotation (to mix fun and hard reading), etc...) Some of those pages are entered with project names in the SF3 list and I go to that page when I see the name and others serve as feeder lists. I mark the column header of the page I'm on in bold since Office doesn't keep that steady if you switch sheets.
I haven't had to dismiss a page yet, but if I did I would change the fill of those two columns to some bright color.
One problem with working in Office on an iPod is trying to change large numbers of cells at once. Luckily, it's easy enough to switch over to Google Docs and do that type of editing there.
I'm at 5 active pages right now. 2 are down to less than 5 tasks in C1. I think that getting very many more might be difficult. I may wind up deleting all the completed tasks and consolidating my active columns at some point soon, just to avoid having 10 pages with most having less than a quarter of the tasks active.
So long as I follow the rules, this works much better than any other of Mark's systems that I've tried (before this, the best for me was DWM). The hard part, of course, is making myself follow the rules :)
February 12, 2011 at 18:35 |
Jessica O
Jessica O
I tried a setup in Evernote that put a 25x2 table on a page with spaces at the top to indicate when the page was opened, dismissed, and closed. It was lovely, because Evernote lets you even put in tickboxes and everything.
But rich text Evernote notes are not editable in the iOS version of the app. So that was a colossal failure.
In another thread, someone said that they had implemented it in Toodledo and just made column 1 tasks low priority and column 2 tasks medium priority. That's how I'm doing it right now - I have a folder for each page (the only annoying part is that you have to manually keep track of how many total items are in the folder, there's nothing to force you onto the next "page") and I sort first by priority and then by date added. The flow isn't great but I'm getting used to it. I'm certainly moving things along that would have languished on page W of DWM for seven days at a time, only to get worked on and then neglected for another week.
But rich text Evernote notes are not editable in the iOS version of the app. So that was a colossal failure.
In another thread, someone said that they had implemented it in Toodledo and just made column 1 tasks low priority and column 2 tasks medium priority. That's how I'm doing it right now - I have a folder for each page (the only annoying part is that you have to manually keep track of how many total items are in the folder, there's nothing to force you onto the next "page") and I sort first by priority and then by date added. The flow isn't great but I'm getting used to it. I'm certainly moving things along that would have languished on page W of DWM for seven days at a time, only to get worked on and then neglected for another week.
February 13, 2011 at 1:06 |
Sarah
Sarah
@jupiter
I decided to make a project per month in taskpaper.
So I have a project named 1102 inside wich is:
02 (page 2, project in taskpaper
1 (left page, subproject
2 (right page, subproject
01 (page 1
1 (left page
Task 1
Task 2
2 ( right page
Urgent task 1
Wheb you flick left right on a task it is crossed and it is pretty much all there is to it.
I wrtite the pages project in inversed order so I always have the last page on the top, and can even scan rapidly through the project list button.
This is not as practical a paper maybe, be being able to write and check with one hand is necessary for me. I have tried AF and DMW on paper and it was rapidly abandoned.
I decided to make a project per month in taskpaper.
So I have a project named 1102 inside wich is:
02 (page 2, project in taskpaper
1 (left page, subproject
2 (right page, subproject
01 (page 1
1 (left page
Task 1
Task 2
2 ( right page
Urgent task 1
Wheb you flick left right on a task it is crossed and it is pretty much all there is to it.
I wrtite the pages project in inversed order so I always have the last page on the top, and can even scan rapidly through the project list button.
This is not as practical a paper maybe, be being able to write and check with one hand is necessary for me. I have tried AF and DMW on paper and it was rapidly abandoned.
February 13, 2011 at 1:40 |
isd
isd
@jupiter
I don't highlight because the remaining tasks are more easily seen than on paper,
And for dismissing I intend to put a sign on the page number, like in the paper version with a O for dismissed pages and a × for pages without items to review.
I don't highlight because the remaining tasks are more easily seen than on paper,
And for dismissing I intend to put a sign on the page number, like in the paper version with a O for dismissed pages and a × for pages without items to review.
February 13, 2011 at 1:44 |
isd
isd
@jessica
Spreadsheet!!!!
This looks like a pretty good idea!
If only I could access google spreadsheets offline!
I will anyway try this, put putting new pages not onthe right but on the left, adding new columns, so I would have the last page first.
Spreadsheet!!!!
This looks like a pretty good idea!
If only I could access google spreadsheets offline!
I will anyway try this, put putting new pages not onthe right but on the left, adding new columns, so I would have the last page first.
February 13, 2011 at 2:10 |
isd
isd
I tried different spreadsheet apps and Sheet2 was my choice.
So I am switching to spreadsheet soft(synced with google spreadsheets), this is so much better.
Thank you jessica.
So I am switching to spreadsheet soft(synced with google spreadsheets), this is so much better.
Thank you jessica.
February 13, 2011 at 7:34 |
isd
isd
@Jessica YES the idea is pretty good may be much better than anything. Thanks.
Using a spreadsheet is easier than on task paper or a text editor
I also like the spead of scolling for pages
I did it like this
A1 = C1 A2 = C2 A3=Page (short column just for scolling)
I tried the copy and past from google page to the speadsheet was perfect notiong to do... it pasted perfectly in the right columns ant at the right place. Perfect. !
Using a spreadsheet is easier than on task paper or a text editor
I also like the spead of scolling for pages
I did it like this
A1 = C1 A2 = C2 A3=Page (short column just for scolling)
I tried the copy and past from google page to the speadsheet was perfect notiong to do... it pasted perfectly in the right columns ant at the right place. Perfect. !
February 13, 2011 at 10:53 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
If you do it on a spreadsheet The ideal system is numbers for macintosh because you can categorize the colums and open each page or close it
Then C1 (colums one) is in A
C2 is in B
and in c you just put a number 1 for page one, in front of each task, 2 for page 2, 3 for page 3 and so on
so when you categorize you have the all list per page on one screen
Bt for the iphone you will need numbers and dido for the Ipad... 7 €
Then C1 (colums one) is in A
C2 is in B
and in c you just put a number 1 for page one, in front of each task, 2 for page 2, 3 for page 3 and so on
so when you categorize you have the all list per page on one screen
Bt for the iphone you will need numbers and dido for the Ipad... 7 €
February 13, 2011 at 13:14 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
@isd:
The app I use (Office^2) is made by the same people as the one you chose--it does docs as well as spreadsheets.
@Jupiter
I thought about scrolling the pages vertically too, but decided that I was happier with a horizontal scroll. Numbers for my iPod would be nice since I use a Mac at home, but it does get expensive!
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I did go through my list yesterday and cull the crossed out tasks so I could start from a shorter, clean list again. It served as a bit of a weekly review, as I found myself looking at the tasks again to determine if they really needed to be there or if I could word them better. Basically going through what Mark does after he dismisses tasks without getting hung up on the terminology.
The app I use (Office^2) is made by the same people as the one you chose--it does docs as well as spreadsheets.
@Jupiter
I thought about scrolling the pages vertically too, but decided that I was happier with a horizontal scroll. Numbers for my iPod would be nice since I use a Mac at home, but it does get expensive!
-----
I did go through my list yesterday and cull the crossed out tasks so I could start from a shorter, clean list again. It served as a bit of a weekly review, as I found myself looking at the tasks again to determine if they really needed to be there or if I could word them better. Basically going through what Mark does after he dismisses tasks without getting hung up on the terminology.
February 13, 2011 at 17:38 |
Jessica O
Jessica O
Here is now how look my SAF3 lists.
http://img713.imageshack.us/i/saf3explanation.jpg/
The red numbers 1,2,3,4 represent 2 pages of SAF3(in fact since I started yesterday there are only 2 of them).
The colums not numbered are just there to put space between the pages.
I decided to work with 30 rows.
1 is the column 1 of the LAST page (I add new pages at the left of the sheet)
2 is the column 2 of the LAST page.
3 is the column 1 of the previous page(in this case the first)
4 is the column 2 of the previous page.
As you can see I don't have so much urgent actions for the moment,
but as you can see on the bottom left the green numbers 1 and 2, I have 2 worksheets, one for work and one for everything else.
I put in bold the point where I am, and since the application I use don't allow me to change the color easily I put borders on finished items (in the future I hope to find an app on which I can change the color with one touch).
I decided to work with the list but not let it be dictatorial, so at some point I may naturally do things I have written somewhere on it, without have reached the point or event knowing where it is (then I cross them out when I go through them on the list). This way I can do a task when I feel it to be done, and I have the list to backup me if I forget (I am not sur this is a good way to work with AF but I am willing to experiment. So I am still the master and the list is here to help me not the opposite).
I also read every task in its entirety when I go through the list. I realized I wanted to go to fast most of the time since I am using AF, so I slowed and I can trust the system better, and feel better.
@jessica
Sheet2 is not bad but doesn't have autosave and I lost data when it crashed so I am looking for an alternative if there is.
http://img713.imageshack.us/i/saf3explanation.jpg/
The red numbers 1,2,3,4 represent 2 pages of SAF3(in fact since I started yesterday there are only 2 of them).
The colums not numbered are just there to put space between the pages.
I decided to work with 30 rows.
1 is the column 1 of the LAST page (I add new pages at the left of the sheet)
2 is the column 2 of the LAST page.
3 is the column 1 of the previous page(in this case the first)
4 is the column 2 of the previous page.
As you can see I don't have so much urgent actions for the moment,
but as you can see on the bottom left the green numbers 1 and 2, I have 2 worksheets, one for work and one for everything else.
I put in bold the point where I am, and since the application I use don't allow me to change the color easily I put borders on finished items (in the future I hope to find an app on which I can change the color with one touch).
I decided to work with the list but not let it be dictatorial, so at some point I may naturally do things I have written somewhere on it, without have reached the point or event knowing where it is (then I cross them out when I go through them on the list). This way I can do a task when I feel it to be done, and I have the list to backup me if I forget (I am not sur this is a good way to work with AF but I am willing to experiment. So I am still the master and the list is here to help me not the opposite).
I also read every task in its entirety when I go through the list. I realized I wanted to go to fast most of the time since I am using AF, so I slowed and I can trust the system better, and feel better.
@jessica
Sheet2 is not bad but doesn't have autosave and I lost data when it crashed so I am looking for an alternative if there is.
February 14, 2011 at 6:48 |
isd
isd
Since the pages of my list are browsed from right to left, it feeled more natural to put the column 2 on the left, so I did it. That's all, if someone wants to use right-left orientation also I suggest you do the same ;)
February 14, 2011 at 8:07 |
isd
isd
I'm experimenting with doing some SAF tasks in Outlook. If it works out I'll post the results here.
February 16, 2011 at 4:43 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
http://screencast.com/t/PtQ1ZZmvy
Damn: I appear to have drifted off list. And be falling behind. Could this be a coincidence?
Damn: I appear to have drifted off list. And be falling behind. Could this be a coincidence?
February 16, 2011 at 10:33 |
Will
Will
Will - Looks great. I was just using each day as a page, flagging each new task with deadline=today. This made for variable-length pages. I like your approach better.
Within each due-date group, I sort by priority, so all the column2 items are grouped together at the end. They are also colorized to make them stand out.
For me, the hardest thing to do in Outlook is handling when column 2 fills up and forces you to complete the whole page (action or dismiss everything in column1, action everything in column2). I've been finding this to be a key dynamic in the paper-based version, but it's pretty difficult to implement. You seem to be doing this with filters -- you keep a clean list with all your active tasks, and all the completed tasks hidden, as your default view (shown in your screenshot), but you have other filtered views to show you all the completed items or other pertinent data. Can you share a screenshot of a view that shows column2 filling up with completed tasks?
Thanks!
Within each due-date group, I sort by priority, so all the column2 items are grouped together at the end. They are also colorized to make them stand out.
For me, the hardest thing to do in Outlook is handling when column 2 fills up and forces you to complete the whole page (action or dismiss everything in column1, action everything in column2). I've been finding this to be a key dynamic in the paper-based version, but it's pretty difficult to implement. You seem to be doing this with filters -- you keep a clean list with all your active tasks, and all the completed tasks hidden, as your default view (shown in your screenshot), but you have other filtered views to show you all the completed items or other pertinent data. Can you share a screenshot of a view that shows column2 filling up with completed tasks?
Thanks!
February 16, 2011 at 22:19 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
I am stupid.
I thought SAF could not be implemented in Omnifocus because when you complete a task it disappears, but you can choose in the option to display all the tasks (and the completed tasks as well, crossed out). So this is what I did, and I will from now write my SAF lists in Omnifocus(which is fast and so practical to use. And it is then easier to enjoy the "little and often" goodness).
My method is simple:
Create a folder Superfocus
Create a project by page
*I name the pages in reverse number (page99, page 98, etc.. so the last active page, which is always the entry point, appears on top of the incremental search, as well as on the projects list)
This is all the structure needed
The process is as follows :
-Column 1 task entry
Simply enter new tasks in the most recent project
-Column 2 task entry
Enter task with a due date of yesterday (it is then highlighted)
Thats's all.
The number of normal tasks and overdue tasks are automatically diplayed under the project name so you know easily when you reach 25.
People with a mac can create fancy perspectives to display in the order they like.
I thought SAF could not be implemented in Omnifocus because when you complete a task it disappears, but you can choose in the option to display all the tasks (and the completed tasks as well, crossed out). So this is what I did, and I will from now write my SAF lists in Omnifocus(which is fast and so practical to use. And it is then easier to enjoy the "little and often" goodness).
My method is simple:
Create a folder Superfocus
Create a project by page
*I name the pages in reverse number (page99, page 98, etc.. so the last active page, which is always the entry point, appears on top of the incremental search, as well as on the projects list)
This is all the structure needed
The process is as follows :
-Column 1 task entry
Simply enter new tasks in the most recent project
-Column 2 task entry
Enter task with a due date of yesterday (it is then highlighted)
Thats's all.
The number of normal tasks and overdue tasks are automatically diplayed under the project name so you know easily when you reach 25.
People with a mac can create fancy perspectives to display in the order they like.
February 17, 2011 at 4:30 |
isd
isd
Seraphim,
Here you go:
http://screencast.com/t/OSSGb0Bw3
As you can see, I am not yet filling up the C2, probably because I am not on list enough. So treat this as an interesting exercise rather than a proven approach at this stage. That said, it just feels better than the other approaches I have tried. So far,
Here you go:
http://screencast.com/t/OSSGb0Bw3
As you can see, I am not yet filling up the C2, probably because I am not on list enough. So treat this as an interesting exercise rather than a proven approach at this stage. That said, it just feels better than the other approaches I have tried. So far,
February 17, 2011 at 6:22 |
Will
Will
Maybe it's just me but I've heard a lot of people elsewhere railing about the fact that there is no good handwriting applications on the iPad. Here is a very digital version of Superfocus which has the feel and all the good things of an analog format!
http://yfrog.com/gy2pugyj
http://yfrog.com/gy2pugyj
February 17, 2011 at 6:52 |
Erik
Erik
@ Erik Ouaouh Erik seems nice ! advantage of paper and dgital without inconvenient ?
@ Isd Omnifocus
If you put tasks entry in colums 1 ie tasks it's ok
But for urgent and unfinished (context) you will have to create a new context as a task each time.
I guess it would me easier to create the pages by folders as you do
and the to create 2 contexts
One would be "Current"
The other would be "Urgent & unfinished".
Then you make a sort by context and project, and follow the rules.
Would you do a picture of it ? Thanks
@ Isd Omnifocus
If you put tasks entry in colums 1 ie tasks it's ok
But for urgent and unfinished (context) you will have to create a new context as a task each time.
I guess it would me easier to create the pages by folders as you do
and the to create 2 contexts
One would be "Current"
The other would be "Urgent & unfinished".
Then you make a sort by context and project, and follow the rules.
Would you do a picture of it ? Thanks
February 17, 2011 at 7:42 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
@ Isd omnifocus
Then you could use flag to dissmiss
Then you could use flag to dissmiss
February 17, 2011 at 7:59 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
You could also create a context dissmiss and someday and keep flag for something else.
February 17, 2011 at 8:52 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
Not that I can think of...
You can also export a page or a book if you need to.
You can go gridded or unlined too.
You can also export a page or a book if you need to.
You can go gridded or unlined too.
February 17, 2011 at 9:06 |
Erik
Erik
Using omnifocus
Yes, there is a problem with using the due date (and the flag also, since I use it for something else out of SAF)
I resolved the problem as follows :
I have a project by COLUMN!
and a folder by CONTEXT (work/home/everything else)
Here is the structure
Folder 1 (things I can do everywhere)
Page 99 a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99 b (project/SAF column 2)
Page 98 a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 98 b (project/SAF column 2)
Folder 2 (home context)
Page 99home a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99home b (project/SAF column 2)
Folder 3 (work context)
Page 99work a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99work b (project/SAF column 2)
That is all.
And the WONDERFUL thing you can do with omnifocus when you enter a folder, is clicking on the upper row "Display all actions" and you have all your pages one after another on a big list(and with pages titles inbetween!), this is great! You can browse the list quickly or slowly one action after another (thanks to the great features of OF), the last one beeing very adapted to the AF method I think.
The only problem is ot mark where I stopped, but since I don't track my progress on a single page, I work with pages blocks, i just note the current page somewhere.
I like the libery of working by blocks, and anyway you should have the same results if you follow the rules since you should make sure no action stands out before turning the page.
I will try to mark the whole project overdue (then highlight the page) to mark the current page, it may be nice since the number of remaining tasks also display then.
I think I will continue to look if I can make SAF with omnifocus even easier to use.
Yes, there is a problem with using the due date (and the flag also, since I use it for something else out of SAF)
I resolved the problem as follows :
I have a project by COLUMN!
and a folder by CONTEXT (work/home/everything else)
Here is the structure
Folder 1 (things I can do everywhere)
Page 99 a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99 b (project/SAF column 2)
Page 98 a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 98 b (project/SAF column 2)
Folder 2 (home context)
Page 99home a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99home b (project/SAF column 2)
Folder 3 (work context)
Page 99work a (project/SAF column 1)
Page 99work b (project/SAF column 2)
That is all.
And the WONDERFUL thing you can do with omnifocus when you enter a folder, is clicking on the upper row "Display all actions" and you have all your pages one after another on a big list(and with pages titles inbetween!), this is great! You can browse the list quickly or slowly one action after another (thanks to the great features of OF), the last one beeing very adapted to the AF method I think.
The only problem is ot mark where I stopped, but since I don't track my progress on a single page, I work with pages blocks, i just note the current page somewhere.
I like the libery of working by blocks, and anyway you should have the same results if you follow the rules since you should make sure no action stands out before turning the page.
I will try to mark the whole project overdue (then highlight the page) to mark the current page, it may be nice since the number of remaining tasks also display then.
I think I will continue to look if I can make SAF with omnifocus even easier to use.
February 18, 2011 at 12:01 |
isd
isd
@Erik
I searched a lot for a good handwriting app and noone could do this!
What is the app name?
I searched a lot for a good handwriting app and noone could do this!
What is the app name?
February 18, 2011 at 12:15 |
isd
isd
Isd: what do you mean "blocks"?
February 18, 2011 at 13:05 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
I mean by block that I browse the page more or less randomly and do the tasks that stand up regardless of ther order on the page.
Well in fact I do read and execute the task in the order they are written by default but if I feel I need to do the task on the column 2 rapidly I skip to it then come back to the column 1 on any action I feel like doing until no action stand up on the page, then go to the next page.
It is simpler, and more fun for me as a system.
To say it simply, I don't care of the order of tasks on the same page and track only the current page (not the current action)
Well in fact I do read and execute the task in the order they are written by default but if I feel I need to do the task on the column 2 rapidly I skip to it then come back to the column 1 on any action I feel like doing until no action stand up on the page, then go to the next page.
It is simpler, and more fun for me as a system.
To say it simply, I don't care of the order of tasks on the same page and track only the current page (not the current action)
February 18, 2011 at 16:13 |
isd
isd
@isd
It's called "Penultimate".
It has wrist protection so that you can place your wrist on the screen without leaving traces behind. It's not 100% but close enough ;)
You can draw with your finger no problem. But if you want more of the pencil feel, there are good pens for the iPad on the net for about 3 American dollars.
It's called "Penultimate".
It has wrist protection so that you can place your wrist on the screen without leaving traces behind. It's not 100% but close enough ;)
You can draw with your finger no problem. But if you want more of the pencil feel, there are good pens for the iPad on the net for about 3 American dollars.
February 18, 2011 at 17:22 |
Erik
Erik
@erik
TY
Okay I am screwed it is an iPad only app.
Well, my handwriting is awful so it is not so much of a problem to use a keyboard but...
TY
Okay I am screwed it is an iPad only app.
Well, my handwriting is awful so it is not so much of a problem to use a keyboard but...
February 19, 2011 at 4:19 |
isd
isd
@isd:
The Android tablets are catching up, see articles on this site:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/
I am just waiting for a 7 - 8.9" model with practical handwriting and palm rejection. I'm currently getting used to Android and the Samsung Galaxy Tab (I) which I've bought for my wife to replace her failing netbook.
The Android tablets are catching up, see articles on this site:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/
I am just waiting for a 7 - 8.9" model with practical handwriting and palm rejection. I'm currently getting used to Android and the Samsung Galaxy Tab (I) which I've bought for my wife to replace her failing netbook.
February 19, 2011 at 11:44 |
Roger J
Roger J
Generally I use paper, but I always thought the best digital version of Autofocus was by Andreas Hofmann:
www.autofocus.cc
It would be great if this could be modified to work for Superfocus!
Does anyone know if Andreas is still around?
acedia xx
www.autofocus.cc
It would be great if this could be modified to work for Superfocus!
Does anyone know if Andreas is still around?
acedia xx
February 23, 2011 at 10:47 |
acedia
acedia
acedia:
I'm still here occasionally. And while I've currently returned to paper, I like the idea of finally creating a new digital implementation. My previous attempts always got dismissed sooner or later, so I can't promise anything. :-)
My grand scheme was always to create an uber application that supported multiple systems, but that tends to complicate things quite a bit. Perhaps concentrating on Superfocus 3 only will lead to faster and better results.
Anyway, I'm open for suggestions.
I'm still here occasionally. And while I've currently returned to paper, I like the idea of finally creating a new digital implementation. My previous attempts always got dismissed sooner or later, so I can't promise anything. :-)
My grand scheme was always to create an uber application that supported multiple systems, but that tends to complicate things quite a bit. Perhaps concentrating on Superfocus 3 only will lead to faster and better results.
Anyway, I'm open for suggestions.
March 5, 2011 at 17:38 |
Andreas Hofmann
Andreas Hofmann
Hi Andreas H,
I was using your multi systems AFAHK for AF4, then moved to DWM.xls. Now I'm using Toodledo.com (TDD) with SFv3. I love the flexibity of using on multi platforms that TDD allows: desktop web, mobile web, twitter, email, ipad apps or paper. Ref http://www.markforster.net/forum/post/1408642 "Toodledo and SFv3 ..."
Might I suggest some userscripts to make TDD even nicer for SFv3? ;-)
I was using your multi systems AFAHK for AF4, then moved to DWM.xls. Now I'm using Toodledo.com (TDD) with SFv3. I love the flexibity of using on multi platforms that TDD allows: desktop web, mobile web, twitter, email, ipad apps or paper. Ref http://www.markforster.net/forum/post/1408642 "Toodledo and SFv3 ..."
Might I suggest some userscripts to make TDD even nicer for SFv3? ;-)
March 6, 2011 at 8:02 |
sabre23t
sabre23t
sabre23t:
The problem with user scripts is of course that they only work in some desktop browsers. So whatever improvements they bring won't be available in apps and mobile browsers. Also, they will break everytime the host platform changes something.
That being said, if you have something specific in mind, I probably can throw something together. :-)
The problem with user scripts is of course that they only work in some desktop browsers. So whatever improvements they bring won't be available in apps and mobile browsers. Also, they will break everytime the host platform changes something.
That being said, if you have something specific in mind, I probably can throw something together. :-)
March 6, 2011 at 10:02 |
Andreas Hofmann
Andreas Hofmann
Thanks for the offer Andreas. ;-)
One thing I'm finding a bit tedious in TDD/SFv3 is reentering recurring tasks that I have loads of. I need to change page number, change task number and clear the current task star. Is that clear enough?
One thing I'm finding a bit tedious in TDD/SFv3 is reentering recurring tasks that I have loads of. I need to change page number, change task number and clear the current task star. Is that clear enough?
March 8, 2011 at 16:51 |
sabre23t
sabre23t
Before deciding to try SAF3 I was using Omnioutliner which is a software I can recommand for a lot of reasons but it seems difficult to implement SAF3 inside. If it was possible it would be the best but since I didn't find a practical way to do it I am trying now to use Taskpaper, creating a project for each page, inside which I create 2 projects, for left page and right page. And I try to keep less than 30 actions in each. Since this is not automated it is cumbersome but is the best solution I found until now.
I name the pages@ work or @home or whatever context they are about.
I'll report if it works or not.