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Discussion Forum > Moodscope

I seem to remember Mark recommending checking your mood at regular intervals and scoring it, so to speak, as a way of actually improving your mood. In that connection, I thought some here might be interested to know about this site:

http://www.moodscope.com/

It's a nice way of tracking on your mood on a daily basis, based on the widely-used PANAS scale, and it adds the option of automatically sharing your daily scores with friends via email.
September 29, 2011 at 20:26 | Registered CommenterMartin
I mention this in "Do It Tomorrow", but I also wrote an article about it at:

http://www.markforster.net/blog/2006/9/17/feeling-good.html

I scored 76% today on the Moodscope evaluation, which is quite a bit more complicated than the very simple method I recommended, and is only done once a day. I'll be interested to see whether I feel it is more or less effective than my way.
September 29, 2011 at 23:48 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Thanks for the references, Mark.

One significant difference is that Moodscope makes it easy to share your scores with friends and the like (if you choose to, and they agree to receive them). And there's evidence that that can make a difference.

Anyway, hope you, and others, get something out of it.
September 30, 2011 at 12:14 | Registered CommenterMartin
Scored 84% today, so it's obviously working!

The first thing I notice is that it's making finer distinctions than my method. Using my method, I would have graded myself "10" both yesterday and today. Whether this is actually valuable or not we wait to see.
September 30, 2011 at 12:54 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
For those who really want to get into "personal informatics" (http://personalinformatics.org/ ), there's an app called Optimism: http://www.findingoptimism.com/ , runnable on most platforms.

It's focus is on helping the user isolate triggers that affect mental health.
September 30, 2011 at 16:55 | Registered CommenterMike Brown
Scored 81% yesterday and 87% today.

Not sure I feel it's actually achieving anything.
October 2, 2011 at 16:29 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
100% today!
October 3, 2011 at 12:13 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
So you're feeling perkier today?
October 3, 2011 at 13:54 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
Funnily enough perkiness seems to be missing from the PANAS scale:

http://www.midus.wisc.edu/midus2/project5/M2_P5_Positive%20and%20Negative%20Affect%20Scale_general.pdf
October 3, 2011 at 14:55 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Down to 96% today, because I was only "quite a bit excited" instead of "extremely excited".

Why do they consider being "extremely excited" all the time to be desirable?
October 4, 2011 at 12:52 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
I'm finding this aggregate scoring not very helpful. It's mostly the same, but the site is going "oh no you're down 8%! Better stage an intervention!". And really I'm not much different day to day. I was hoping for more specific analysis based on linked variables or something.
October 4, 2011 at 21:01 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
Alan:

I agree. I don't think this actually tells me much. The only variation I get is with things I don't agree are part of a good mood anyway, such as being "extremely excited".

It might be useful for people who are depressed or have very variable moods, but I actually think my simple method is more useful for most people to use.
October 4, 2011 at 22:25 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
I skipped yesterday as it would have been just more of the same, but after an extremely frustrating day today struggling to get a new broadband system installed I thought I'd take it again.

Result: 49% (and that's _after_ I successfully resolved the problem!)

I just checked with my own simpler method and got a 4 (out of 10)
October 6, 2011 at 19:44 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Back to 84%. Ten in my method.

I think that's as far as I'm going with this.
October 8, 2011 at 18:58 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
An interesting follow-up question to "How good do I feel?" is "What stops it being lower?" (shifting your attention to what's working).
October 9, 2011 at 11:12 | Registered Commentermichael
michael:

The interesting thing is that when I asked myself that question I had absolutely no answer.
October 9, 2011 at 23:35 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
I've done these kinds of surveys manually in the past and I found them useful.

But this one annoyed me. After the third day the system was generating truly inane comments. I know that I could just choose to ignore the comments. But I was unable to resist seeing what it was "saying" about me.

I think I would be better off using the manual survey again, if I felt the need. I am perfectly capable of tracking my scores for the manual survey.
October 10, 2011 at 15:10 | Registered Commentermoises
moises:

I also found the interface annoying and time-wasting - all those revolving cards - which could in itself affect one's scores!

I could have filled in a simple tick box chart about five times faster.
October 10, 2011 at 15:44 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Mark:
<<could have filled in a simple tick box chart >>
perhaps a common case of the techies falling in love with the technology more than the outcome of it.

Intrigued by your non-response to "what stops it being lower?" For me it directs my attention to what's good and working happily
October 10, 2011 at 17:06 | Registered Commentermichael
Akinator is a mild mood booster -- might be more effective than Moodscope.

http://www.akinator.mobi/us
October 10, 2011 at 19:07 | Registered CommenterSeraphim
Seraphim:

Akinator thought St Seraphim of Vyritsa was 1) Rasputin 2) Gurjieff 3) Karl Barth.

My mood's really good now!
October 11, 2011 at 8:21 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Just a couple of quick words in defence of the apparently unpopular Moodscope:

First, there's apparently some empirical evidence that the playing cards approach generates more accurate results than something more like a checkbox approach precisely because it slows you down.

Second, I agree that the list of mood aspects has some odd features (like pairs which seems awfully close to redundant), but again, it's worth noting that the list is a very widely-used scale for measuring mood which has been subjected to significant empirical testing by research psychologists. I'm not suggesting that this means it must be unproblematic, but I do think it means that it's too hasty to write it off on the basis of one's own intuitions—our intuitions can be very unreliable in this sort of area.

Third, one of the main features of Moodscope is the way it automates the process of sharing your daily scores with a friend; and again, there's apparently empirical evidence that that in itself can be beneficial. So this should be taken into account when comparing it to other methods.

Finally, note that they've just announced that in a couple of months they'll be making a more sophisticated version available which will enable you to track things more closely. I'm guessing that this means you'll be able to keep track of more fine-grained data than simply your overall daily score. (The catch, of course, is that that'll be something you'll have to pay for.)

Martin


P.S. I agree that the daily comments are a bit annoying. I just ignore them.
October 11, 2011 at 14:39 | Registered CommenterMartin
Mark: LOL. I am glad you introduced Akinator to St Seraphim of Vyritsa. :-)

Akinator did get Ilya Murometz on the first guess. :-)

And Akinator ALWAYS gets Curious George on the first guess, which gets lots of giggles from my 6-YO daughter. (She ALWAYS asks Akinator to guess Curious George; or sometimes, the Man With The Yellow Hat.)

Maybe for a real mood booster you just need to get a 6-YO daughter. :-) :-) :-)
October 11, 2011 at 17:27 | Registered CommenterSeraphim
By the way, do you have good resources on St Seraphim of Vyritsa? The material in English is pretty scanty.
October 11, 2011 at 17:29 | Registered CommenterSeraphim
Seraphim:

I think everything I know about him was sent me by you.
October 11, 2011 at 22:55 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Seraphim:

<< Maybe for a real mood booster you just need to get a 6-YO daughter. :-) :-) :-) >>

I've had two of those.

Mind you, they have a tendency to turn into thirty year old daughters while you aren't looking!
October 11, 2011 at 22:58 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
<< Mind you, they have a tendency to turn into thirty year old daughters while you aren't looking! >>

LOL!
October 12, 2011 at 21:31 | Registered CommenterSeraphim