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I've been searching for a good notebook to keep in my pocket. The best I've found so far is a card-cover, 70x120, with 80 pages, but I doubt it will last.. The day planner pocket things you can buy seem like the right size, material, for exactly this use, but they are all expensive and preprinted with annoying things like calendars, hours, divisions, and whatever. I just want cheap lines.
November 7, 2011 at 22:16 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
I've been using Field Notes for a couple of years now and they're perfect for me. You can find them at http://fieldnotesbrand.com/ and a snapshot of my todo list at http://jzh.tumblr.com/post/12485730316/
November 7, 2011 at 23:20 | Registered CommenterZane
I've been using a mini-composition notebook 4.5" x 3.5" with 80 sheets (160 pages) . It looks like the typical composition book, with black and white speckled cover. Got one or two at Walmart once for $0.88 each, then discoved a three pack for $1 at a dollar store. I haven't had any problem with them not lasting. I use one for my SF list, and I have one in each vehicle as a maintenance log.
November 8, 2011 at 12:23 | Registered CommenterDave D
I love field notes too - but find them a little small for my todo lists - I tend to keep one in my bag for odd notes on the run. You can get them in the UK from here: http://www.thepaperie.co.uk/notebooks/field-notes-notebooks I haven't found them anywhere else.

Also don't Rhodia do a nice small notebook? Quite few to choose from here: http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/a6-books-and-smaller/c53
November 8, 2011 at 18:42 | Registered CommenterAlison Reeves
Hi Zane,

Great picture of your system! I see you underline each day and identify the week number?

Can you explain a little more about your method?

Thanks,
November 9, 2011 at 13:28 | Registered Commenterleon
Hi Zane.

Ditto re: Leon.

Spill the beans!
November 9, 2011 at 15:00 | Registered Commenteravrum
Alison:

<< You can get them in the UK from here: http://www.thepaperie.co.uk/notebooks/field-notes-notebooks I haven't found them anywhere else. >>

Amazon doesn't sell them themselves but they do have three partners who do (including Paperie), so you can keep an eye on who does them cheapest.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0034KDEMO/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d1_g14_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0VQBTMVJ90C3MY0S5TCV&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

(I was amused by the box which says "I'd like to read this book on Kindle"!)
November 9, 2011 at 16:48 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
I like the 9x14 cm spiral notebooks, 100 pages ruled in squares, with glazed cardboard covers, sold in French supermarkets for about 1€. They fit in a shirt pocket, but there are also 11x17 for bigger pockets. I have seen similar ones in Tesco in Britain, A6 size I think, with ruled lines. Now if there was some way of attaching a pencil...
November 9, 2011 at 17:14 | Registered Commentertarentola
leon, avrum:

Each morning I draw a line to start a new day and write the date according to the calendar we use at work – the workweek we’re in and the day (today is 46.Wed). I guess I’m using a hybrid of Mark’s AF/SF (I have no idea which one) and Alan Baljeu’s “Here It Is”. I treat the last couple of pages as a closed list and work through them once, then work the previous four pages, then return to current, then back where I left off, then to current, etc. Work and home are in the same list. I get reminders on my iPhone (via Due) for things that must get done, especially at home since I don’t check my list for home items very often.

I do “all” of my work from my desk on my PC through Outlook email and in phone meetings, so a lot of what I do (database, Excel, answering questions, providing information) does not get recorded in my list.

It’s nothing special. I’m just using what works for me until Mark publishes his next iteration.
November 9, 2011 at 17:49 | Registered CommenterZane
with the direct link http://fieldnotesbrand.com/ there are all kinds of fun monthly specials with colors & papers. I've not ordered, so no direct experience yet.
November 9, 2011 at 20:51 | Registered CommentermatthewS
I'm trying David D's solution.
November 9, 2011 at 22:07 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
tarentola: " Now if there was some way of attaching a pencil..."

Take a strip of duct tape and carefully fold it in half lengthways to make a thinner strip which is the same length and no longer sticky. Wrap into a loop and clip your pencil in. Then work out where on the book to attach it and use another piece of duct tape to secure it. I've done this in the past, it works. You can also cut a piece out of the first strip to leave a sticky section at each end after folding and attach it directly. Duct tape is ace! I got this from an idea after watching a video on making a duct tape wallet (google will tell you more on that).
November 9, 2011 at 22:16 | Registered CommenterChris L
tarentola: " Now if there was some way of attaching a pencil..."

Or you can slip a pencil down the wire spine, after blocking one end with crumpled paper.

Or http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/leuchtturm-pen-loop/p2525

(though investing £2.25 on a loop for a 1€ notebook does seem a little unbalanced

Or duct tape and elastic.
November 10, 2011 at 9:21 | Registered CommenterWill
Zane,

Thanks for the information. Dividing up the days with a line has given me an idea:

The rules, or guidlines are:

1. AF1 method is followed, except that the closed list is now a day. The list for the current day can be left open during the day so that new entries can be added.
2. Urgent items are marked with a 'U' (or other symbol) at either side of the task, preferably to the right. These can be done at any time and in any order.
3. Items that need following up in the future can either go onto the list, or onto an external reminder system for re-entry later (e.g. tickler, Outlook tasks).

This approach will likely require a more aggressive dismissal approach. A good thing if one does not like long lists (I don't). Not so good if plenty of passes are needed to allow for incubation.

Comments?
November 10, 2011 at 13:13 | Registered Commenterleon
tarentola: " Now if there was some way of attaching a pencil..."

With spiral-bound notebooks I've always used a ballpoint pen and put it down the wire spine as Will suggests. The clip on the pen holds it in place.
November 10, 2011 at 13:14 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Hi Mark,

So what is your 'pen of choice'?
November 10, 2011 at 13:20 | Registered Commenterleon
leon:

<< AF1 method is followed, except that the closed list is now a day. The list for the current day can be left open during the day so that new entries can be added. >>

I remember trying this as part of my experimentation for AF1. I remember it didn't work very well for me, but I can't remember why!

I'll be interested to hear how you get on with it.
November 10, 2011 at 13:24 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
leon:

My favourite is the unsurpassable Bic Cristal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bic_Cristal

However, as you can see from the illustration, it is unsuitable for use with a spiral notebook because the whole cap will protrude above the top of the notebook and may easily get knocked off.

So I suggest the almost-but-not-quite-as-good Papermate Comfortmate which doesn't have a removable cap.

http://www.internet-ink.co.uk/userfiles/image/Pen%20Images/papermate_comfortmate_retblack.jpg
November 10, 2011 at 13:35 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
'What a guy'.

Thanks Mark!
November 10, 2011 at 13:46 | Registered Commenterleon
Thanks for the suggestions on attaching the pencil. The spiral on the pocket-sized 100-page notebook is too narrow to hold a pencil, so I am now trying with small pieces of Velcro, one at each end of the (short) pencil and attaching on the notebook near the spiral on the front cover.
November 11, 2011 at 11:21 | Registered Commentertarentola
I've found with all cheap pens, biros, the ink balls up on the trailing edge of the nib when drawing lines through things. This then smudges or has to be wiped off on a spare bit of the page. It gets worse as the pen gets more used. Any suggestions for a cheap brand which specifically doesn't exhibit this? I'm not keen on gel pens as an alternative.
November 11, 2011 at 14:08 | Registered CommenterChris L
Chris L:

I used to find that with the Bic Cristal, but they seemed to have improved it recently so it doesn't happen so much. All ball point pens seem to suffer from this, whatever their cost, and I think the Bic as now as good as any.
November 11, 2011 at 14:56 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Another method of attaching a pen/pencil is to put it inside the front cover and put a strong rubber band round the notebook. This serves the double purpose of keeping your notebook safely closed as well as the pen secured.
November 11, 2011 at 15:12 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Chris L,
<<I've found with all cheap pens, biros, the ink balls up on the trailing edge of the nib when drawing lines through things.>>

My absolute favorite is the Pilot G2. The ink does very occasionally ball up, and once in a while I seem to get a bad one that keeps balling up even after I wipe it clean. But the vast majority of these are smooth and trouble free. These pens fit very well into most spiral bindings, and the clip locks them in place.

http://www.pilotpen.us/ProductGroup/35-G2.aspx?ProductId=111
0.7 mm is good for regular use, 0.5 mm is good for check registers or small journals.

They are calling it a "gel roller." The ink is formulated with a gel, probably the reason for less smudge, but it feels like a very smooth ballpoint.
November 11, 2011 at 15:25 | Registered CommenterBernie
If you write small and want a super-fine line try the uni-ball Signo RT Gel, 0.38mm.

http://www.uniball-na.com/main.taf?p=2,2,6
November 11, 2011 at 19:52 | Registered CommenterZane
That Walmart book is disintegrating. Trying a 40 page moleskine.
November 19, 2011 at 15:12 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
As much as I love my Field Notes pocket-sized graph-ruled books, I'm planning on trying Moleskine Cahier Pocket Squared next time. Advantages: 64 vs 48 pages, stitched vs stapled spine, perforated last few pages, and the back pocket. Similar price (excluding shipping). Only downside I see is that they're actually manufactured in China (FN are made in the States). U.S. link:

http://www.moleskineus.com/cahier-pocket-graph.html
November 20, 2011 at 0:18 | Registered Commenterubi
what about Rhodia & Clairefontaine & Miquelrius & any of the other not made in China & not readily known about in the USA notebooks - those of you in Europe seems as if you have a far better culture of great paper, made in the country they are based in - thoughts on these? I've come across some of them & of course can order all of them online.

they all have Moleskine similar versions & fanatics seem to imply better than Moleskine

here are some
http://rhodiapads.com/collections_boutique_webnotebook.shtml
November 27, 2011 at 10:21 | Registered CommentermatthewS
MatthewS,

"... in Europe seems as if you have a far better culture of great paper..."

China has a fair tradition of paper and penmanship, I believe. :0)
November 28, 2011 at 9:51 | Registered CommenterWill
Personally, I use Rhodia webnotebooks for my task list. It's pretty much the exact size of a moleskine pocket but with far superior paper and in my opinion a nicer cover. You can find them here: http://www.rhodiapads.com/

I also use a quiver double pen holder on it that holds my fountain pen and highlighter. You can get quiver holders at www.quiverglobal.com. They are a FANTASTIC price and look/feel great.

FYI, i have absolutely no connection with either company. I just love their products.

Hope this helps.

Brett
December 1, 2011 at 8:16 | Registered Commenterbrettypooh
I like the Uniball 207:
http://www.amazon.com/uni-ball-Retractable-Medium-Point-Colored-40110/dp/B000FD5818
there are several colors and sizes and it's readily available (at least in US)

But the Pilot G2 is a close second. the Micro doesn't write as smooth as a 207 micro but it does make a finer line. In the .5 size, they are pretty close.
December 8, 2011 at 13:43 | Registered CommenterMartyH
I second the Uniball.
December 8, 2011 at 14:21 | Registered CommenterAlan Baljeu
will
you are right, China DOES have great tradition of paper and writing. perhaps even invented both?

my comment was more from that Moleskine gives off a whiff of brand/history all steeped in Italy, which certainly is known for craftsmanship, and then really turns out to be from China.

yet perhaps OK, China makes the iPhone, certainly should be able to make a notebook - so might not really be an issue.

while some of the others do seem to be actually from their country that they say they are from.

this is all somewhat arbitrary in such a global economy, where everything is made from everywhere and goes everywhere. so maybe it matters, maybe not. overall, the quality does seem to be better with Rhodia and related.

finally, I'm aware of some ironic aspects that China has "taken" business away for such things as manufacturing of porcelain, which were in fact stolen from China in the first place.

so no problem, for me, with China or most of their products.

( i do have a problem with USA companies endlessly closing down USA based factories to make instead in China - eventually USA will only make pizza deliveries and movies - that being somewhat from Snow Crash )
December 8, 2011 at 22:09 | Registered CommentermatthewS