Discussion Forum > Welcome back, Mark!
Thanks, Bernie.
No, I found English was more understood than French in the Holy Land.
No, I found English was more understood than French in the Holy Land.
November 29, 2011 at 8:24 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Dommage Cher Mark, j'aurais été ravis de discuter avec vous !
November 29, 2011 at 9:20 |
FocusGuy.
FocusGuy.
Holy Land? Did you go to Israel?
November 29, 2011 at 13:58 |
avrum
avrum
Avrum:
Yes, and to some of the Palestinian Authority areas as well.
Yes, and to some of the Palestinian Authority areas as well.
November 29, 2011 at 16:29 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
What holy sites did you visit?
November 30, 2011 at 19:46 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
Seraphim:
It depends what you mean by a holy site - just about everywhere there has some sacred history. Beersheba, Masada, Qumran, Jericho, Lake Tiberias, Capernaum, Mount of the Transfiguration, Mount of the Beatitudes, Source of the Jordan, Vale of Jezreel, Nazareth, Caesarea Philippi, Bethlehem. And at Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, Holy Sepulchre, Dominus Flevit, Gethsemane, Bethphage, Wailing Wall, Temple Mount, St Peter in Gallicantu.
I think I've probably forgotten a few!
By the way, there were a lot of Russian Orthodox pilgrims. One nun sung the most beautiful solo in the Church of All Nations on Gethsemane. I recognised it as an Orthodox hymn that I'd heard before, but I haven't been able to find it since my return. What would you consider to be an appropriate hymn?
It depends what you mean by a holy site - just about everywhere there has some sacred history. Beersheba, Masada, Qumran, Jericho, Lake Tiberias, Capernaum, Mount of the Transfiguration, Mount of the Beatitudes, Source of the Jordan, Vale of Jezreel, Nazareth, Caesarea Philippi, Bethlehem. And at Jerusalem: Yad Vashem, Holy Sepulchre, Dominus Flevit, Gethsemane, Bethphage, Wailing Wall, Temple Mount, St Peter in Gallicantu.
I think I've probably forgotten a few!
By the way, there were a lot of Russian Orthodox pilgrims. One nun sung the most beautiful solo in the Church of All Nations on Gethsemane. I recognised it as an Orthodox hymn that I'd heard before, but I haven't been able to find it since my return. What would you consider to be an appropriate hymn?
November 30, 2011 at 20:48 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Mark - I'd guess it would be one of the hymns from Holy Thursday. My daughter thought it might simply be Tsaritsa Moya Preblagaya, a very popular hymn to the Theotokos that is often sung in Russia or Ukraine -- not really connected to Gethsemene but is just a popular hymn.
December 2, 2011 at 17:51 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
Seraphim:
It's not Tsaritsa Moya Preblagaya.
My guess was the same as yours - that it was one of the Holy Thursday hymns. But I can't find the right one. I expect I'll hear it again some day and recognise it.
(Later) I found a Youtube version of exactly the same hymn being sung at Gethsemane two years ago. I don't know if it was the same nun, but her costume and voice are identical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgHp__nN04
Maybe you can tell me what the hymn is?
It's not Tsaritsa Moya Preblagaya.
My guess was the same as yours - that it was one of the Holy Thursday hymns. But I can't find the right one. I expect I'll hear it again some day and recognise it.
(Later) I found a Youtube version of exactly the same hymn being sung at Gethsemane two years ago. I don't know if it was the same nun, but her costume and voice are identical:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tgHp__nN04
Maybe you can tell me what the hymn is?
December 2, 2011 at 22:00 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Hi Mark,
I'm not 100% sure of the beginning of the hymn. The last half, however, is
Покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе: покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе: покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе, покажи нам и славное Твое Воскресение.
The translation for this is
We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. Show us also Thy Holy Resurrection!
This is normally sung on Great Friday Matins (15th Antiphon).
It may also be sung elsewhere as part of other prayers However, I cannot make out the words from the first minute or so..
I'm not 100% sure of the beginning of the hymn. The last half, however, is
Покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе: покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе: покланяемся Страстем Твоим, Христе, покажи нам и славное Твое Воскресение.
The translation for this is
We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. We worship Thy Passion, O Christ. Show us also Thy Holy Resurrection!
This is normally sung on Great Friday Matins (15th Antiphon).
It may also be sung elsewhere as part of other prayers However, I cannot make out the words from the first minute or so..
December 2, 2011 at 23:51 |
PaulB from Canada
PaulB from Canada
Brilliant, Paul. That's it!
The title of the hymn is Днесь висит на древе
What an amazing resource this forum is.
There's an English language version at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdgbTXqjUk&feature=related
Today He who hung the earth upon the waters is hung on the tree,
The King of the angels is decked with a crown of thorns.
He who wraps the heavens in clouds is wrapped in the purple of mockery.
He who freed Adam in the Jordan is slapped on the face.
The Bridegroom of the Church is affixed to the Cross with nails.
The Son of the virgin is pierced by a spear.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
Show us also Thy glorious resurrection
The title of the hymn is Днесь висит на древе
What an amazing resource this forum is.
There's an English language version at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKdgbTXqjUk&feature=related
Today He who hung the earth upon the waters is hung on the tree,
The King of the angels is decked with a crown of thorns.
He who wraps the heavens in clouds is wrapped in the purple of mockery.
He who freed Adam in the Jordan is slapped on the face.
The Bridegroom of the Church is affixed to the Cross with nails.
The Son of the virgin is pierced by a spear.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
We worship Thy passion, O Christ.
Show us also Thy glorious resurrection
December 3, 2011 at 9:48 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
I hope you had a wonderfully restorative vacation.
Did you get to speak any French?