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Discussion Forum > Solving AF1's problems

I am back from vacation and I am back to using my old list. Reading back on the recent blog posts, comments, and threads has inspired me to go and try out AF1 again, which I have been doing for just a couple of days.

I always had problems with AF1's slowness, in that sometimes I need to do something that is way forward in my list compared to where I was currently. I would do it then go back to my previous place, and per Mark Forster's instructions this is a legit way of doing things with the system, but still it feels jarring and unnatural. So almost an hour into using AF1 I just changed the dismissal rule: said dismissal rule now only applies to the oldest active page.

It just made perfect sense: I only dismiss items that I have given the most time to percolate in my list to determine whether I want enough to do them or not. It also lets me go forward in the list wherever I urgently need to be like in Flexible AF except when I am in the oldest page, and since I already passed through the newest pages before getting there that sense of urgency to go forward isn't present usually.

I am not the first one to think of this, am I?
September 28, 2018 at 2:12 | Registered Commenternuntym
No, I've used this method with AF1, AF4, FAF and FV (see AndreasE's post on this).

I've also used the AF2 dismissal method with AF1.
September 28, 2018 at 10:18 | Registered CommenterCaibre65
Can't find the post you were referring to Caibre65, was curious to read it.

Anyways yeah I figured somebody would have tried this out. Are you still using this? If so, how is it? If not, why have you stopped?
September 28, 2018 at 10:44 | Registered Commenternuntym

You actually commented on this at the time nuntym but I think you were using AF2ND then.

I find that I have feelings of overwhelm when I try to work directly from a long catchall list. I prefer to scan my list once and create a shorter day list to work from. Perhaps a little more like Bill Westerman's GSD system than a MF system. Though I use Checkvist rather than paper.

I certainly found that either oldest page dismissal or AF2 dismissal in particular added enough of a nudge to get moving on the older items without slowing FAF down. It made AF1 much faster.
September 28, 2018 at 11:39 | Registered CommenterCaibre65
I always found than AF1 is one of the best system MF has invented with AF4.
I often uses it when things are getting complicated. Just wonder 1 thing.
Imagine an items stand at you. It belongs to a project you must finish quickly.

Rhen you finish the item and think of others tasks to do you think should be done by now. What to you do. ? Do you do them or do you follow the list and then asap go back to theses items ?
September 29, 2018 at 15:25 | Unregistered CommenterJupiter

Mark Forster has repeatedly said to that to just do these items. He said, if it is absolutely clear that something has to be don now, then do it!

(In the context of discussing specific systems he also added to always write everything down, before you do it:)
September 30, 2018 at 21:31 | Unregistered CommenterChristopher

I tend to think of an action written on a list that relates to a project as more of a bookmark showing where I am with a project. If I had a task such as “Find Joe Bloggs file” I would probably continue with whatever I want that file for after I’ve found it.

Some MF systems seem to work better with the project entered as an item on the list. Some seem to work better with a number of individual tasks relating to a project.
September 30, 2018 at 22:24 | Registered CommenterCaibre65

That was an interesting read! I actually cannot remember that thread.

AF2 dismissal for other MF systems, interesting.
October 1, 2018 at 4:58 | Registered Commenternuntym