Discussion Forum > Autofocus: Self-regulation versus Self-control
Niice - Good backup info - I think the corrected url is http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=taking-the-reins
Thanks Rainer!
Thanks Rainer!
January 5, 2009 at 16:17 |
Mark From Florida
Mark From Florida
Mark,
thanks for correcting the url.
thanks for correcting the url.
January 5, 2009 at 16:32 |
Rainer
Rainer
Interesting paper, Rainer. Thanks for posting it.
January 5, 2009 at 17:19 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Self-control can be more intensive, but has a bigger ultimate pay-off.
For a more raw, intense way to gain mega discipline and self control, check out;
http://www.learningthesteel.com/books
For a more raw, intense way to gain mega discipline and self control, check out;
http://www.learningthesteel.com/books
September 30, 2013 at 7:58 |
ConnorBryant
ConnorBryant
...and in a similar vein, "WILLPOWER IS NOT ENOUGH" - an analysis of willpower as engagement with six influences on behavioural choices: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TX-Nu5wTS8
0. how committed am I? - what are the real reasons i want to change?
1. how many of the skills do i have? the knowledge?
2. crucial moments - when relapses are highly likely (temptations are not 24x7)
3. vital behaviours - find behaviours that need to be options in crucial moments
4. friends and accountability
5. how can i make the wanted behaviours easier and the unwanted behaviours harder?
0. how committed am I? - what are the real reasons i want to change?
1. how many of the skills do i have? the knowledge?
2. crucial moments - when relapses are highly likely (temptations are not 24x7)
3. vital behaviours - find behaviours that need to be options in crucial moments
4. friends and accountability
5. how can i make the wanted behaviours easier and the unwanted behaviours harder?
September 30, 2013 at 21:08 |
michael
michael
Hi Michael,
Cheers for the link. Interesting video actually. I'm a geek for all that Psychological stuff, which is why I got into it. But it can actually be practical too, If simplified and applied correctly.
Actually, the book I posted about gaining the willpower tools needed for mega success in anything in life, talks about the limits of willpower/discipline and how to work with them
http://www.learningthesteel.com/books/
Cheers for the link. Interesting video actually. I'm a geek for all that Psychological stuff, which is why I got into it. But it can actually be practical too, If simplified and applied correctly.
Actually, the book I posted about gaining the willpower tools needed for mega success in anything in life, talks about the limits of willpower/discipline and how to work with them
http://www.learningthesteel.com/books/
October 1, 2013 at 1:20 |
ConnorBryant
ConnorBryant
Thanks, Connor.
I gather you want to sell a book!
Perhaps you'd like to give an example or two of what you are recommending in it?
I gather you want to sell a book!
Perhaps you'd like to give an example or two of what you are recommending in it?
October 1, 2013 at 7:46 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
self-control (aka self-discipline) ~
push mode (aka pull mode) (from Dreams)?
push mode (aka pull mode) (from Dreams)?
October 1, 2013 at 22:30 |
Shamil Aysin
Shamil Aysin
sorry,
(self-control) vs (self-regulation) ~
(push-mode) vs (pull mode) from Dreams?
(self-control) vs (self-regulation) ~
(push-mode) vs (pull mode) from Dreams?
October 1, 2013 at 22:34 |
Shamil Aysin
Shamil Aysin
I think that's not right, Shamil. Self-control is about pushing yourself to do certain things, and not do other things. Self-regulation is about creating a process that you follow and action is easier because it's implicit in the process. Dreams is about changing your perspective so that what you want to do matches what you dream wants done.
October 1, 2013 at 22:41 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
In my experience, self-control, willpower, is very limited. Self-regulation, AKA application of automatic systems and environmental triggers, is a far better method, as people have been noting in this thread. I don't rely on just my willpower to avoid certain websites during the work day, I whip out LeechBlock and make it hard as hell to fuss with during the day. There, done. I've killed most of the problem of goofing around on websites.
B.J. Fogg is another interesting guy who's looked into this stuff. He's got a site called Behavior Wizard that helps you narrow down the type of behavior you want and gives you ideas in terms of motivation, ability, and triggers to accomplish it. I found him through Ramit Sethi, a finance guy who also does a lot with behavioral psychology.
B.J. Fogg is another interesting guy who's looked into this stuff. He's got a site called Behavior Wizard that helps you narrow down the type of behavior you want and gives you ideas in terms of motivation, ability, and triggers to accomplish it. I found him through Ramit Sethi, a finance guy who also does a lot with behavioral psychology.
October 2, 2013 at 15:16 |
Hail2U!
Hail2U!





Research has shown that is far easier to work using self-regulation than to use self-control. Self-control requires much more mental energy than self-regulation
(e.g. http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=taking-the-reins&print=true) .