Discussion Forum > The DIT/AF-hybrid: Best productivity system for me
Nice idea, M. Romer.
I have similar situation. And asked how to conmbine it with daily / weekly goals and with your life long strategy.
Maybe you would like to take a look at some Excel formats similar to those that you are describing, with a daily format. There is a Notebook and an Agenda:
http://davidseah.com/publiki/Variations-of-Compact-Calendar-by-Sp/
Also, you may want to read an interesting method named "Getting Shit Done" which has some similar aspects, like notebook contained, simplified GTD, similar to DIT with a Day's Objectives concept:
http://utilware.com/gsd3.html
Sincerely,
Spencer
I have similar situation. And asked how to conmbine it with daily / weekly goals and with your life long strategy.
Maybe you would like to take a look at some Excel formats similar to those that you are describing, with a daily format. There is a Notebook and an Agenda:
http://davidseah.com/publiki/Variations-of-Compact-Calendar-by-Sp/
Also, you may want to read an interesting method named "Getting Shit Done" which has some similar aspects, like notebook contained, simplified GTD, similar to DIT with a Day's Objectives concept:
http://utilware.com/gsd3.html
Sincerely,
Spencer
January 12, 2009 at 18:32 |
Spencer
Spencer
M. Romer,
This is not to criticise your system, but I'm not quite sure what is "hybrid" about it. Apart from steps 2, 3 and 4, which seem to owe more to GTD, this is just the standard method of using DIT.
This is not to criticise your system, but I'm not quite sure what is "hybrid" about it. Apart from steps 2, 3 and 4, which seem to owe more to GTD, this is just the standard method of using DIT.
January 12, 2009 at 20:44 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
@Mark Forster:
Thanks for your answer. You are right, it's maybe a bit exaggerated to call it a "hybrid" - but the applied system owes at least a major aspect to Autofocus: In DIT I had only a couple of items (maybe 6-10) in my task diary; now I have more or less 15-30 items and I go through them as if it were a list in the Autofocus system (that is first quickly and the looking more slowly through the items until one catches my attention). I feel less tension even when I choose more unpleasant tasks, which I think is the effect of structured procrastination. I had no such feeling whilst working with "regular" DIT.
But I understand your concern. If you think this system is out of place in a discussion forum concerning the Autofocus system, please feel free to delete this thread. I was just happy that the most intriguing feature of the Autofocus system, the lack of stress and overcoming the feeling of procrastination, could be integrated into my "beloved" DIT.
@Spencer:
Thanks for the links. I will definately look into that...
Thanks for your answer. You are right, it's maybe a bit exaggerated to call it a "hybrid" - but the applied system owes at least a major aspect to Autofocus: In DIT I had only a couple of items (maybe 6-10) in my task diary; now I have more or less 15-30 items and I go through them as if it were a list in the Autofocus system (that is first quickly and the looking more slowly through the items until one catches my attention). I feel less tension even when I choose more unpleasant tasks, which I think is the effect of structured procrastination. I had no such feeling whilst working with "regular" DIT.
But I understand your concern. If you think this system is out of place in a discussion forum concerning the Autofocus system, please feel free to delete this thread. I was just happy that the most intriguing feature of the Autofocus system, the lack of stress and overcoming the feeling of procrastination, could be integrated into my "beloved" DIT.
@Spencer:
Thanks for the links. I will definately look into that...
January 12, 2009 at 22:24 |
M. Romer
M. Romer
By the way: The "write everything down forget about it and evaluate it later"-step has been made popular by Mr. Allen and his company but is by no means his invention, as far as I know. There has been a Harvard study that deals with the executive function of the brain and it's implications on time management (see: Stefan Klein: Time. A User's Guide. which is a pretty good book by the way) which came to the same conclusion earlier than GTD.
January 12, 2009 at 22:41 |
M. Romer
M. Romer
M. Romer:
This forum is not exclusive to Autofocus, so don't worry about that.
What I was getting at is that in DIT I went through the Task Diary in exactly the same way that I recommend for AF - going through the items slowly and then one by one to see which stand out. So for me your method is not a hybrid - it's the standard way of doing DIT.
This forum is not exclusive to Autofocus, so don't worry about that.
What I was getting at is that in DIT I went through the Task Diary in exactly the same way that I recommend for AF - going through the items slowly and then one by one to see which stand out. So for me your method is not a hybrid - it's the standard way of doing DIT.
January 13, 2009 at 11:51 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
@Mark Forster:
Well, I guess then I worked for the first time with DIT as it is supposed to be while having experimented with the Autofocus system!
I never had so many items in my Task Diary before - and really got them all done. I think the way I approach the items in the Task Diary brought me into a different mindset that comes close to the liberating feeling that many people apparently have with Autofocus - though Autofocus didn't work for me. Plain DIT and I feel illuminated....
Well, I guess then I worked for the first time with DIT as it is supposed to be while having experimented with the Autofocus system!
I never had so many items in my Task Diary before - and really got them all done. I think the way I approach the items in the Task Diary brought me into a different mindset that comes close to the liberating feeling that many people apparently have with Autofocus - though Autofocus didn't work for me. Plain DIT and I feel illuminated....
January 13, 2009 at 12:29 |
M. Romer
M. Romer
An interesting thread.
Re the book M. Romer mentioned I just wanted to add that it was originally published in German and is called "Zeit: Der Stoff, aus dem das Leben ist". I know that there are some German participants of this forum (like myself) who might find this helpful.
Re the book M. Romer mentioned I just wanted to add that it was originally published in German and is called "Zeit: Der Stoff, aus dem das Leben ist". I know that there are some German participants of this forum (like myself) who might find this helpful.
January 13, 2009 at 16:35 |
Alex W.
Alex W.





My idea was to incorporate the „structured procrastination“-approach of AF that balances the rational and intuitive parts of the brain into some DIT-ideas. It striked me that I'm more productive when I first pre-edit what I write down (e.g. make a rational decision, see below) and then work my way through it in a manner AF chooses the task (go through a closed list until something catches your attention).
This is what I do:
1.)I write everything down whenever it crosses my mind.
2.)I put everything I write down in an inbox and forget about it that day (create a buffer).
3.)I clear the inbox daily and make a rational decision what to do about it (I know, old GTD habits – but it works here for me...just hang on and read a bit further).
4.)I write the task in my task diary. My task diary is a notebook (A5), one day per page. On the left side of the page I jot down all my tasks that need to be done at a specific time of the day. On the right hand side I jot down every other task of that day. I use the „little and often“-approach and write the task down in manner that it can be dealt with in just a little time (e.g. instead of „write essay“ I put down „begin to write first draft of essay“)
5.)I review my daily tasks in the same manner as in the AF-system: I don't prioritise them and go through them until something stands out for me.
6.)I work on the task for as long as I like.
7.)I cross the item off and re-enter it when I'm not done with the task either on the following day or on the day I like to proceed (e.g. if the next day is a sunday and there is no need to work on that item).
8.)See 5 until I'm done (which is a pretty good feeling I don't have with AF).
The problem with AF for me was that I maybe got more done, but I wasn't more productive! I did trivial stuff instead of the more important tasks.
I asked myself: Do I really need for example to write 57 books down and THEN choose the books that I read by going through the list until some books will catch my attention? Why not use the 80/20-rule and run through the 57 books and choose the ones that stand out for me on that day and write these books down. I know, Mark will argue that the books the AF-system choose are a better assortment of books than he could choose. But in fact, the system is you (or your unconscious) and to write them down is an integral part of the system – but I found out that I could make the (unconscious) decision beforehand and then write only the tasks down that I really needed to do.
On other tasks I first made a rational decision based on the 80/20-rule. Instead of pages over pages with items that I would dismiss later anway I came up with 20 tasks that would fit easily on my page in the notebook. By using the „structured procrastination“-approach when choosing the tasks in the task diary I felt less resistance. I got less items done – but nevertheless I was more productive....
In short:
pre-edited items (choose until it stands out for you) and rational decisions (80/20-rule) made me more productive by actually doing less items
I only need one list (notebook) instead of a list AND a notebook
I can jot down time specific tasks
I still make heavy use of the „structured-procrastination“-approach and feel less resistance
I make use of a closed list and know when to call it a day and enjoy my spare time.