FV and FVP Forum > Demo video (at long last)
Sarah,
Outstanding job - very well done and very helpful. What software did you use?
Outstanding job - very well done and very helpful. What software did you use?
April 3, 2012 at 22:31 |
Tom C
Tom C
Tom-
Thanks! I used Keynote for the video. You could get the same effect with PowerPoint or any other presentation software that exports to video.
Thanks! I used Keynote for the video. You could get the same effect with PowerPoint or any other presentation software that exports to video.
April 4, 2012 at 1:24 |
Sarah
Sarah
Well done Sarah!
April 4, 2012 at 1:50 |
avrum
avrum
Excellent! What a clear teaching tool! Thank you.
April 4, 2012 at 5:03 |
Djorn
Djorn
Superb Sarah! Thank you for sharing this.
April 4, 2012 at 7:08 |
JD
JD
Thank you, Sarah, excellent work. I'll put the link on the new Resources page which I am planning for the website.
April 4, 2012 at 9:44 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
I tried to watch this on my iPhone but it says no. Have you thought about posting it on YouTube which allows for playing on more types of devices? I'm sure Dropbox has a limit eventually on downloads as well.
April 4, 2012 at 13:53 |
Don R
Don R
Don (and Mark) - I will YouTube it so it's got a more durable link (because I'm sure to delete it in a DropBox purge at some point) and post the link once that's done.
All - thanks for the compliments! :^)
All - thanks for the compliments! :^)
April 4, 2012 at 15:14 |
Sarah
Sarah
Sarah, what a wonderful demo, with whay comes across as 'real life' eg ticking off items during a scan that were 'just done' without being on any ladder.
It shows to me that there is a tendency in FV towards shorter, doable, less forbidding lists/ladders. The simplicity which Mark has brought into FV is very well illustrated in your demo.
I noted one task 'the ladder is not a closed list', at least that's what I think it said. Your reasoning, or is it a rhetorical question?
Once again, thanks you very much.
It shows to me that there is a tendency in FV towards shorter, doable, less forbidding lists/ladders. The simplicity which Mark has brought into FV is very well illustrated in your demo.
I noted one task 'the ladder is not a closed list', at least that's what I think it said. Your reasoning, or is it a rhetorical question?
Once again, thanks you very much.
April 4, 2012 at 16:22 |
Roger J
Roger J
Roger - that was a question for myself, as I was trying to figure out exactly how FV fit into the concepts from Mark's other systems. I don't recall exactly what prompted it; I think it had to do with how to deal with urgent items. Just one of those passing thoughts that gets jotted down and probably deleted without ever resulting in any actions.
April 4, 2012 at 16:27 |
Sarah
Sarah
Great job, Sarah!
I am wondering about the wording though of "Do I want to do this before ..." that appears in the scanning box. I hate to be picky, but the wording was a central point earlier, and I wouldn't want to throw newcomers astray. Could the box read "What do I want to do before ..."?
I am wondering about the wording though of "Do I want to do this before ..." that appears in the scanning box. I hate to be picky, but the wording was a central point earlier, and I wouldn't want to throw newcomers astray. Could the box read "What do I want to do before ..."?
April 4, 2012 at 21:08 |
Bernie
Bernie
Bernie,
Hrm. I've been thinking of it this way:
"What do I want to do before [last marked task]?" is the OVERARCHING question.
But as I pass through the list, I'm reading each task and weighing it in relation to that last marked task, so the question (or really more the thought - it's not like I compare tasks in grammatically correct sentences) that I consider as I read each subsequent task is whether I want to do that particular task before the last marked one.
I'm more than willing to believe that I've misinterpreted Mark's intentions, though, and it would be easy enough to change. Mark? Am I completely off base? If you're going to use this as a teaching tool, it should accurately reflect the system as you intended it.
Hrm. I've been thinking of it this way:
"What do I want to do before [last marked task]?" is the OVERARCHING question.
But as I pass through the list, I'm reading each task and weighing it in relation to that last marked task, so the question (or really more the thought - it's not like I compare tasks in grammatically correct sentences) that I consider as I read each subsequent task is whether I want to do that particular task before the last marked one.
I'm more than willing to believe that I've misinterpreted Mark's intentions, though, and it would be easy enough to change. Mark? Am I completely off base? If you're going to use this as a teaching tool, it should accurately reflect the system as you intended it.
April 5, 2012 at 13:44 |
Sarah
Sarah
Sarah,
I think that Bernie is remembering Mark's post here:
http://www.markforster.net/fv-forum/post/1759452#post1760206
In that post Mark says that the question "what do I want to do before I do x?" allows for scanning the list quickly during selection, instead of pausing at each item to deliberate about it.
Thanks for creating and posting the demo!
I think that Bernie is remembering Mark's post here:
http://www.markforster.net/fv-forum/post/1759452#post1760206
In that post Mark says that the question "what do I want to do before I do x?" allows for scanning the list quickly during selection, instead of pausing at each item to deliberate about it.
Thanks for creating and posting the demo!
April 5, 2012 at 17:45 |
isinger
isinger
Yes, isinger, that's the one.
Sarah, I completely get why the video works better the way you've phrased it, and it leads to a great visualization of FV in action.
I just thought I should point it out since this exact wording difference had been discussed, with Mark's emphasis, and it seemed to affect the outcome for some people. Newbies who don't geek out on these forums will miss the subtlety and might miss out on the scanning effect.
Sarah, I completely get why the video works better the way you've phrased it, and it leads to a great visualization of FV in action.
I just thought I should point it out since this exact wording difference had been discussed, with Mark's emphasis, and it seemed to affect the outcome for some people. Newbies who don't geek out on these forums will miss the subtlety and might miss out on the scanning effect.
April 6, 2012 at 5:30 |
Bernie
Bernie
I second the request for a YouTube version, please!
April 6, 2012 at 13:17 |
NeilCumming
NeilCumming
OK, I will change the wording on the scan and then YouTube it. It may be early next week before it gets done... Passover and all.
April 6, 2012 at 15:49 |
Sarah
Sarah
Splendid. Thanks. :-)
April 6, 2012 at 17:29 |
NeilCumming
NeilCumming
Sarah
This is fantastic and was incredibly helpful! Thanks for taking the time to do this! It really helped me resolve a few small issues I was having with the implementation. Spot on!
This is fantastic and was incredibly helpful! Thanks for taking the time to do this! It really helped me resolve a few small issues I was having with the implementation. Spot on!
April 6, 2012 at 21:52 |
BryanR
BryanR
New version with rephrased scanning question... and on youtube!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Qauv4kgR8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Qauv4kgR8
April 10, 2012 at 21:16 |
Sarah
Sarah
Again, very nice, Sarah, thanks a lot.
Your demo has that flavour of real life!
Your demo has that flavour of real life!
April 10, 2012 at 22:04 |
Roger J
Roger J
Nice, Sarah. After the recent threads about the wording of tasks, I'm struck by how compact yours are.
April 11, 2012 at 7:17 |
Bernie
Bernie
Thanks so much for this, Sarah. Very professional and very instructive. :-)
April 11, 2012 at 17:02 |
NeilCumming
NeilCumming
p.s. "What do I want to do before tormenting the cat?"
Lol. Priceless. :-D
Lol. Priceless. :-D
April 11, 2012 at 17:04 |
NeilCumming
NeilCumming
Seriously. Have you ever tried to put drops in a cat's ears and then swab them out with a cotton swab?
The only thing worse is trying to give the cat nasal saline. *That* is to be avoided at all costs.
The only thing worse is trying to give the cat nasal saline. *That* is to be avoided at all costs.
April 11, 2012 at 21:04 |
Sarah
Sarah
Ah, good, normal home-veterinarian kinds of stuff. I thought you had something more like this in mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB5nztzXo24
April 12, 2012 at 23:32 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
Sadly, no, I have not yet managed to make the cat levitate.
April 13, 2012 at 13:50 |
Sarah
Sarah
My son has wanted to try that for years, though his design calls for peanut butter.
April 14, 2012 at 8:07 |
Bernie
Bernie
The peanut butter solution does work, but is less efficient since the cats tend to lick it off faster, thus falling to the ground prematurely.
April 15, 2012 at 1:46 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
With the right paperwork, we could probably get a government grant to further the research.
April 15, 2012 at 3:35 |
MartyH
MartyH
<<With the right paperwork, we could probably get a government grant to further the research.>>
Indeed, if we stuck a treasury bill to the peanut butter, it might keep the currency afloat forever.
Indeed, if we stuck a treasury bill to the peanut butter, it might keep the currency afloat forever.
April 15, 2012 at 16:38 |
Bernie
Bernie
Sarah, you made Mark's FV come alive! Your effort is much appreciated. You showed how much can get done in a day with FV. Your presentation, Sarah, is now my benchmark.
April 21, 2012 at 14:00 |
Randy Place
Randy Place
It's possible that I'm too picky, but the low-res-ness of the previous version of the demo was driving me crazy, so I posted a hi-res version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv1Om3As1Ck
(Yes, I know. I have a problem.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv1Om3As1Ck
(Yes, I know. I have a problem.)
April 25, 2012 at 15:19 |
Sarah
Sarah
I was going to comment earlier on the low-res-ness, but didn't feel it appropriate. Thanks Sarah for the new version. RIght in time for me to use for introducing FV to one of my staff. :-)
April 26, 2012 at 4:31 |
sabre23t
sabre23t
I'm not sure how much better it is, to be honest. I think some of the loss is happening on YouTube's end. So here's the same thing from my dropbox:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8227179/FV-HQ.mov
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8227179/FV-HQ.mov
April 26, 2012 at 13:24 |
Sarah
Sarah
Sarah, that's a great video. You're right, there does seem to be some quality loss on the YouTube side, but your HQ version is much more readable than the original YouTube upload. It might be better to delete the original version? It's very difficult to read the text.
Not to nitpick, but there's a slight error in the video, which somehow survived your rewording of the question. In the 7th ladder, at 10:58, you select "sweep kitchen" as the next task, but when you resume scanning, you're still asking what you want to do before reading, when it should be what you want to do before sweeping. Not sure it's worth the hassle to correct it, but I thought I'd make a note of it.
I thought Mark's FV instructions were clear, but this video is still a great learning tool.
Not to nitpick, but there's a slight error in the video, which somehow survived your rewording of the question. In the 7th ladder, at 10:58, you select "sweep kitchen" as the next task, but when you resume scanning, you're still asking what you want to do before reading, when it should be what you want to do before sweeping. Not sure it's worth the hassle to correct it, but I thought I'd make a note of it.
I thought Mark's FV instructions were clear, but this video is still a great learning tool.
April 26, 2012 at 16:27 |
Deven
Deven
It's at
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8227179/FV.mov
for those who want to "watch" me use the system through 7 cycles.