FV and FVP Forum > Weekly Task Count Check-In for FV or FVP
FVP
No Question
240 Tasks
30 Pages
No Question
240 Tasks
30 Pages
June 16, 2015 at 3:26 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
FVP
No question
37 tasks
2 pages
No question
37 tasks
2 pages
June 16, 2015 at 4:32 |
jim
jim
FVP
No question
103 tasks
8 pages
No question
103 tasks
8 pages
June 16, 2015 at 11:39 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
FVP - No Question
Working in evernote so no pages
175 tasks (some duplicates that need to be culled)
Working in evernote so no pages
175 tasks (some duplicates that need to be culled)
June 16, 2015 at 14:56 |
Sarah
Sarah
FVP
No question.
53 tasks.
7 pages
No question.
53 tasks.
7 pages
June 16, 2015 at 14:58 |
Sobertruth
Sobertruth
FVP - No Question
Number of task in Work and Personal FPV lists = 62
Number of pages = n/a, electronic with ToDoist
Number of task in Work and Personal FPV lists = 62
Number of pages = n/a, electronic with ToDoist
June 16, 2015 at 15:01 |
Roger J
Roger J
Sorry for having to ask...
Is this check-in for this week so far, or last week's results, or a weekly average? And are these total tasks recorded, or the number completed, or the number open?
Is this check-in for this week so far, or last week's results, or a weekly average? And are these total tasks recorded, or the number completed, or the number open?
June 16, 2015 at 21:19 |
Zane
Zane
Zane:
It's a benchmark of how many active tasks are on your list right now, and how many active pages there are if using paper. A week from the date of your latest benchmark post, check in again with a fresh update. I posted my first benchmark on Monday, so I will check in next Monday with new totals.
It's a benchmark of how many active tasks are on your list right now, and how many active pages there are if using paper. A week from the date of your latest benchmark post, check in again with a fresh update. I posted my first benchmark on Monday, so I will check in next Monday with new totals.
June 17, 2015 at 5:48 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
FVP
No question 80% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 20%
13 tasks
2 pages
No question 80% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 20%
13 tasks
2 pages
June 18, 2015 at 23:17 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
no question
77 tasks
10 pages
no question
77 tasks
10 pages
June 21, 2015 at 11:32 |
Nicole
Nicole
FVP
No Question
67 tasks
9 pages
This is after about 2 weeks, with some excursions into a OneNote-based experiment on the side. This includes both work and personal notebooks.
No Question
67 tasks
9 pages
This is after about 2 weeks, with some excursions into a OneNote-based experiment on the side. This includes both work and personal notebooks.
June 22, 2015 at 1:01 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
FVP
No Question
231 Tasks
36 Pages
No Question
231 Tasks
36 Pages
June 22, 2015 at 6:34 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
FVP
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
20 tasks
3 pages
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
20 tasks
3 pages
June 24, 2015 at 23:33 |
Zane
Zane
Zane:
Your use of a question has gone up by 30%, and you're now using it half the time. What have you found is driving this change?
Your use of a question has gone up by 30%, and you're now using it half the time. What have you found is driving this change?
June 25, 2015 at 5:37 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
FVP in Evernote
No Question
167 tasks
No Question
167 tasks
June 25, 2015 at 15:32 |
Sarah
Sarah
It's only been 3 days since my last update but posting here "stood out" so what can I do? LOL
FVP
No Question
124 Tasks
13 Pages
I am surprised how low my task count has been. Typically after a few days sticking with a single approach I am already into the several-hundreds. It also stays pretty compact -- the earliest pages are all nearly completed. Tasks don't "straggle".
I have one combined list for work and personal. I really like my Moleskine Volant!
http://www.amazon.com/Moleskine-Volant-Notebook-Antwerp-Prussian/dp/8883708601
and my Z-Grip pens!
http://www.amazon.com/Z-Grip-Retractable-Ballpoint-Assorted-22208/dp/B00M382ROY
FVP
No Question
124 Tasks
13 Pages
I am surprised how low my task count has been. Typically after a few days sticking with a single approach I am already into the several-hundreds. It also stays pretty compact -- the earliest pages are all nearly completed. Tasks don't "straggle".
I have one combined list for work and personal. I really like my Moleskine Volant!
http://www.amazon.com/Moleskine-Volant-Notebook-Antwerp-Prussian/dp/8883708601
and my Z-Grip pens!
http://www.amazon.com/Z-Grip-Retractable-Ballpoint-Assorted-22208/dp/B00M382ROY
June 25, 2015 at 15:53 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
As I'm always experimenting with different approaches I've re-written my list several times so it can't really be compared with either my earlier report or other people's lists.
2 pages
39 tasks
2 pages
39 tasks
June 25, 2015 at 16:40 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Fvp no question. Paper since 6/10/15
12 pages 108 open tasks
Notebook: Vela n2 computation notebook. Like a classic moleskine but cheaper with graph paper margins and page numbers. Want to move to a dot grid when this is done. Looking at the baron fig confidant notebook
Woodcase pencil only. Mostly the Ticonderoga renew but also the blackwing 602 and the Cedar pointe natural.
Loving the process
12 pages 108 open tasks
Notebook: Vela n2 computation notebook. Like a classic moleskine but cheaper with graph paper margins and page numbers. Want to move to a dot grid when this is done. Looking at the baron fig confidant notebook
Woodcase pencil only. Mostly the Ticonderoga renew but also the blackwing 602 and the Cedar pointe natural.
Loving the process
June 25, 2015 at 16:58 |
Vegheadjones
Vegheadjones
FVP
No Question
227 Tasks
28 Pages
No Question
227 Tasks
28 Pages
June 30, 2015 at 2:25 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
FVP
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
15 tasks
2 pages
Not a normal week for me for various (work-driven) reasons.
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
15 tasks
2 pages
Not a normal week for me for various (work-driven) reasons.
July 2, 2015 at 1:16 |
Zane
Zane
Michael B.
"Your use of a question has gone up by 30%, and you're now using it half the time. What have you found is driving this change?"
You know how you can read a page of a book, then realize your mind wandered and you didn't get any of it? Same thing. Sometimes I notice I've scanned too lightly, too superficially, so I go back and ask the question. It makes me read each task with intention. This is especially true late in the day when I'm tired.
"Your use of a question has gone up by 30%, and you're now using it half the time. What have you found is driving this change?"
You know how you can read a page of a book, then realize your mind wandered and you didn't get any of it? Same thing. Sometimes I notice I've scanned too lightly, too superficially, so I go back and ask the question. It makes me read each task with intention. This is especially true late in the day when I'm tired.
July 2, 2015 at 1:24 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
22 tasks
2 pages
No question 50% of the time, "what do I want to do more than X" 50%
22 tasks
2 pages
July 8, 2015 at 23:51 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
No Question
264 Tasks
31 Pages
No Question
264 Tasks
31 Pages
July 9, 2015 at 2:02 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
Michael B
I can't imagine having 264 tasks open. Honestly I don't think I could come up with 250+ things to do, so we must be approaching our lists very differently. Would you say a little bit about your list, your methodology?
I can't imagine having 264 tasks open. Honestly I don't think I could come up with 250+ things to do, so we must be approaching our lists very differently. Would you say a little bit about your list, your methodology?
July 9, 2015 at 15:52 |
Zane
Zane
Zane:
I don't pre-filter what I write down when using a "universal capture" system. I write down anything that occurs to me to do or think of doing. When Mark creates a universal capture system, I've noticed a tendency for many to continue pre-filtering what they write down. For one's universal capture list to be 20-30 tasks long during the course of a week, I can only imagine one must be:
• Pre-filtering what's written down
• Writing many tasks large instead of broken down smaller
• Managing a lot of tasks in their head
• Possibly using the list only for work related tasks, writing them large, and managing a lot in their head
I don't pre-filter what I write down when using a "universal capture" system. I write down anything that occurs to me to do or think of doing. When Mark creates a universal capture system, I've noticed a tendency for many to continue pre-filtering what they write down. For one's universal capture list to be 20-30 tasks long during the course of a week, I can only imagine one must be:
• Pre-filtering what's written down
• Writing many tasks large instead of broken down smaller
• Managing a lot of tasks in their head
• Possibly using the list only for work related tasks, writing them large, and managing a lot in their head
July 9, 2015 at 21:53 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
Michael B:
That makes sense. My list is small primarily because large tasks are not broken down. I also do many <2 min things as they come up without writing them down.
Thanks for the explanation!
That makes sense. My list is small primarily because large tasks are not broken down. I also do many <2 min things as they come up without writing them down.
Thanks for the explanation!
July 10, 2015 at 1:34 |
Zane
Zane
Zane:
"You know how you can read a page of a book, then realize your mind wandered and you didn't get any of it?"
Ha. Yes I do. Happens a lot with me.
"Sometimes I notice I've scanned too lightly, too superficially, so I go back and ask the question. It makes me read each task with intention."
The following quasi-FV question seems to take over my thoughts during "no question" scans quite frequently: "But, before that..."
"You know how you can read a page of a book, then realize your mind wandered and you didn't get any of it?"
Ha. Yes I do. Happens a lot with me.
"Sometimes I notice I've scanned too lightly, too superficially, so I go back and ask the question. It makes me read each task with intention."
The following quasi-FV question seems to take over my thoughts during "no question" scans quite frequently: "But, before that..."
July 10, 2015 at 7:32 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
Nice one Michael. I'll try that.
July 10, 2015 at 15:49 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
no question
119 tasks (several duplicates that I haven't pruned out yet)
19 pages
no question
119 tasks (several duplicates that I haven't pruned out yet)
19 pages
July 12, 2015 at 10:26 |
Nicole
Nicole
FVP
"But, right now..."
303 Tasks
36 Pages
"But, right now..."
303 Tasks
36 Pages
July 16, 2015 at 2:13 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
The following guide sentences seem to allow scanning of the list with the guidance of a question, while also allowing the no question method/standing out principle to dominate:
"But, before that..."
"But, right now..."
I noticed the second guide sentence, with its addition of a tighter time-frame, reduced the amount of tasks dotted and seemed to speed up the scan to more of a glide.
"But, before that..."
"But, right now..."
I noticed the second guide sentence, with its addition of a tighter time-frame, reduced the amount of tasks dotted and seemed to speed up the scan to more of a glide.
July 16, 2015 at 2:35 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
10 pages
80 tasks
"No question" FVP
A couple of remarks:
The most important task on my list is "Weed List".
Keep an eye on the oldest tasks on your list:
If they are low priority tasks which you are not particularly concerned about, then there is no problem. They are exactly where they should be if the algorithm is working correctly.
If they are important tasks which you are resisting, then you are not working the algorithm correctly. In which case the action you take can include: 1) reducing the number of tasks you chose on each pass; 2) aggressively weeding the list; 3) crossing out the earliest tasks and re-entering them at the end of the list - but only if you consider it still important to do them.
It's important to remember that FVP does not work like AF1. AF1 forces you to do, dismiss or delete every task which you enter on the list. FVP on the other hand produces an optimal order for doing the tasks. This means that if you have more work on the list than you are capable of doing, you will never get round to doing certain tasks.
The result of all this is that FVP, if done properly, will produce less trivial and/or unimportant action than AF1. The FVP user does what matters when it matters. The AF1 user does it all, regardless of what really matters at the time.
80 tasks
"No question" FVP
A couple of remarks:
The most important task on my list is "Weed List".
Keep an eye on the oldest tasks on your list:
If they are low priority tasks which you are not particularly concerned about, then there is no problem. They are exactly where they should be if the algorithm is working correctly.
If they are important tasks which you are resisting, then you are not working the algorithm correctly. In which case the action you take can include: 1) reducing the number of tasks you chose on each pass; 2) aggressively weeding the list; 3) crossing out the earliest tasks and re-entering them at the end of the list - but only if you consider it still important to do them.
It's important to remember that FVP does not work like AF1. AF1 forces you to do, dismiss or delete every task which you enter on the list. FVP on the other hand produces an optimal order for doing the tasks. This means that if you have more work on the list than you are capable of doing, you will never get round to doing certain tasks.
The result of all this is that FVP, if done properly, will produce less trivial and/or unimportant action than AF1. The FVP user does what matters when it matters. The AF1 user does it all, regardless of what really matters at the time.
July 16, 2015 at 10:44 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
"The AF1 user does it all, regardless of what really matters at the time."
I'm can't say that this is how AF1 works for me. I write down things in my list that I think I should do, that I want to do, that I want to think about, that I don't want to forget, that I have to do, etc.
As I cycle through the list, I do, dismiss, or delete them. When needed, I invoke the rule "If it needs doing now, do it now." It is easy to jump out of the list to take care of whatever has become pressing for whatever reason knowing that you won't forget everything else or break the system by doing so.
Items that I decide I'm never going to do, I delete immediately. Some items get dismissed so I can review them later. No worries.
The work gets done and has a flow to it. AF1 really works well for me at this point in my life.
I'm can't say that this is how AF1 works for me. I write down things in my list that I think I should do, that I want to do, that I want to think about, that I don't want to forget, that I have to do, etc.
As I cycle through the list, I do, dismiss, or delete them. When needed, I invoke the rule "If it needs doing now, do it now." It is easy to jump out of the list to take care of whatever has become pressing for whatever reason knowing that you won't forget everything else or break the system by doing so.
Items that I decide I'm never going to do, I delete immediately. Some items get dismissed so I can review them later. No worries.
The work gets done and has a flow to it. AF1 really works well for me at this point in my life.
July 16, 2015 at 21:35 |
JakeIsArmed
JakeIsArmed
JakeIsArmed:
<< The work gets done and has a flow to it. AF1 really works well for me at this point in my life. >>
In that case stick to it.
<< The work gets done and has a flow to it. AF1 really works well for me at this point in my life. >>
In that case stick to it.
July 16, 2015 at 22:32 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
JakeIsArmed, Mark:
I'm interested in this discussion of FVP and AF1. I have created a new thread below:
http://markforster.squarespace.com/fv-forum/post/2524427
I'm interested in this discussion of FVP and AF1. I have created a new thread below:
http://markforster.squarespace.com/fv-forum/post/2524427
July 16, 2015 at 23:30 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
No question FVP
120 tasks
16 pages
I've got a bunch of stuff stowed away in my other defunct google tasks, but they haven't become important enough to move over to FVP just yet. I've also gone back and forth from the amFVP app, and have settled on the paper method for mostly the reasons Mark has mentioned and the fact that I just can't rely on it to hold my data reliably.
I'm hoping there will be a post or home for "questionless FVP" to point friends to, but it's no big deal. I'm guessing we're all still work-shopping this method.
It seems to be working better than even my home-brew methods and for that I am impressed, but even more importantly, I feel less anxiety.
120 tasks
16 pages
I've got a bunch of stuff stowed away in my other defunct google tasks, but they haven't become important enough to move over to FVP just yet. I've also gone back and forth from the amFVP app, and have settled on the paper method for mostly the reasons Mark has mentioned and the fact that I just can't rely on it to hold my data reliably.
I'm hoping there will be a post or home for "questionless FVP" to point friends to, but it's no big deal. I'm guessing we're all still work-shopping this method.
It seems to be working better than even my home-brew methods and for that I am impressed, but even more importantly, I feel less anxiety.
July 18, 2015 at 22:52 |
Jesse
Jesse
Been on vacation for a week. After 1/2 day I've weeded my list and I'm at...
"But, right now" FVP
36 tasks (up from 14)
2.5 pages (up from 2)
"But, right now" FVP
36 tasks (up from 14)
2.5 pages (up from 2)
July 20, 2015 at 20:00 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
No Question
88 tasks
6 pages
I started a new notebook on 7/7. I decided to treat my old notebook as a "backlog" and just start fresh. My old notebook still has 93 tasks, spread across 17 pages.
I'm also experimenting with a method to defer tasks to the future so they don't clutter my active list -- for example, tasks I don't want to think about until the weekend. I just enter those tasks a page or two beyond the end of my list. This isn't as exact as using a reminder or tickler, but it's much simpler and works pretty well.
No Question
88 tasks
6 pages
I started a new notebook on 7/7. I decided to treat my old notebook as a "backlog" and just start fresh. My old notebook still has 93 tasks, spread across 17 pages.
I'm also experimenting with a method to defer tasks to the future so they don't clutter my active list -- for example, tasks I don't want to think about until the weekend. I just enter those tasks a page or two beyond the end of my list. This isn't as exact as using a reminder or tickler, but it's much simpler and works pretty well.
July 22, 2015 at 17:26 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
FVP
No Question
159 Tasks
Using Evernote, so no pages...
My FV habits are so ingrained that I'm still adjusting to FVP... I still tend to forget and keep working up the chain rather than returning to the main list. I anticipate that I'll ultimately end up alternating between the two depending on my mood.
No Question
159 Tasks
Using Evernote, so no pages...
My FV habits are so ingrained that I'm still adjusting to FVP... I still tend to forget and keep working up the chain rather than returning to the main list. I anticipate that I'll ultimately end up alternating between the two depending on my mood.
July 22, 2015 at 19:42 |
Sarah
Sarah
FVP
"But, right now..."
241 Tasks (Down from 303)
29 Pages (Down from 36)
"But, right now..."
241 Tasks (Down from 303)
29 Pages (Down from 36)
July 24, 2015 at 4:10 |
Michael B.
Michael B.
"No List" FVP (NTLIYHBTLIWTS-FVP)
"What do I want to do before x?"
2 Tasks
N/A Pages (electronic)
8 "Big Tasks" in Inventory List
:D
"What do I want to do before x?"
2 Tasks
N/A Pages (electronic)
8 "Big Tasks" in Inventory List
:D
July 24, 2015 at 13:32 |
nuntym
nuntym
FVP
no question
94 tasks
19 pages
I just got back from a holiday, so I didn't add much new stuff, but there are still some old tasks hanging around spread out over earlier pages. I've read Mark's post about old tasks hanging around, and that makes sense.
no question
94 tasks
19 pages
I just got back from a holiday, so I didn't add much new stuff, but there are still some old tasks hanging around spread out over earlier pages. I've read Mark's post about old tasks hanging around, and that makes sense.
July 26, 2015 at 0:08 |
Nicole
Nicole
I guess we treat the old tasks that we never get to as AF1 dismissed, and revisit them when we feel enough of an urge to put "review old tasks" on our list?
FVP
No question
52 tasks + a load of mail and Outlook tasks waiting for review
13 pages
FVP
No question
52 tasks + a load of mail and Outlook tasks waiting for review
13 pages
July 27, 2015 at 10:18 |
Will
Will
FVP
"But, right now"
30 tasks (down from 36)
2.5 pages (unchanged)
"But, right now"
30 tasks (down from 36)
2.5 pages (unchanged)
July 27, 2015 at 22:10 |
Zane
Zane
I finally came to the conclusion that keeping my list in Evernote was making the list more of an impediment than a help so I ditched it this morning.
FVP / No Question
24 items
2 pages
I have "review Evernote Inbox" as one of those 24 items and will continue to use it for notes and stuff that I want to keep but not for tasks per se (going back to using it as a digital filing cabinet more than anything else).
FVP / No Question
24 items
2 pages
I have "review Evernote Inbox" as one of those 24 items and will continue to use it for notes and stuff that I want to keep but not for tasks per se (going back to using it as a digital filing cabinet more than anything else).
July 29, 2015 at 16:31 |
Sarah
Sarah
Sarah,
Try Todoist, it's default entry location, unless you specify which folder you want it to go into, is Inbox.
Regards,
Roger J
Try Todoist, it's default entry location, unless you specify which folder you want it to go into, is Inbox.
Regards,
Roger J
July 29, 2015 at 16:41 |
Roger Jones
Roger Jones
FVP
No Question
135 tasks
11 pages
The experiment I mentioned above (deferring tasks by entering them a page or two beyond the end of my list) has been working really nicely. It helps keep tasks out of sight till I want to see them again.
No Question
135 tasks
11 pages
The experiment I mentioned above (deferring tasks by entering them a page or two beyond the end of my list) has been working really nicely. It helps keep tasks out of sight till I want to see them again.
July 29, 2015 at 18:56 |
Seraphim
Seraphim
FVP
"But first"
53 tasks (up from 30)
3 1/3 pages (up from 2 1/2)
I've just retired after 32 years with one company and lots of structure. My task list has just about doubled and I'm much more drawn to using it than before, more reliant on it. Why? The position I had the last several years had clear-cut weekly, monthly, and quarterly "benchmarks" that, after years of experience, I didn't need many reminders for. Now I have many unique tasks and I'm relying on the list to both remind me of what to do and to help me prioritize properly. The list has a whole different feel to it and it plays a much more important role.
"But first"
53 tasks (up from 30)
3 1/3 pages (up from 2 1/2)
I've just retired after 32 years with one company and lots of structure. My task list has just about doubled and I'm much more drawn to using it than before, more reliant on it. Why? The position I had the last several years had clear-cut weekly, monthly, and quarterly "benchmarks" that, after years of experience, I didn't need many reminders for. Now I have many unique tasks and I'm relying on the list to both remind me of what to do and to help me prioritize properly. The list has a whole different feel to it and it plays a much more important role.
August 4, 2015 at 20:45 |
Zane
Zane
FVP
"What do you want more than x?"
55 tasks
3.5 pages (46 lines per page)
"What do you want more than x?"
55 tasks
3.5 pages (46 lines per page)
August 4, 2015 at 23:20 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
FV or FVP?
The Specific Question You're Using or No Question?
100 Tasks
10 Pages