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FV and FVP Forum > A little FV hack

I would propose you the following FV hack

1\ select a task that "stands out" near the end of the list. Mark it with a dot;

2\ use this dotted item as the starting point of a FV chain;

3\ execute in the orthodox way the FV chain of selected items;

4\ when you execute the last dotted item (the first item of the current chain), move upward the task list looking for the first item that stands out. Mark it with a dot.

5\ go to 2

notes:

.. This algorithm guarantees a good focus at the end of the list.

.. In the meantime you slowly move toward the beginning of the list, so the oldest items does not become neglected.
August 5, 2020 at 7:48 | Unregistered Commenternick61
nick61

I used this a couple of days ago and found it very useful.

One query though. When you scan back to the very beginning of the list do you select the first task as the root task or do you loop back to the beginning of the list and start scanning backwards again?
August 7, 2020 at 12:56 | Registered CommenterCaibre65
"When you scan back to the very beginning of the list do you select the first task as the root task"? ... yes, I select the first task as the root task.

I'll try the second alternative you described, to see how it works.

Nice to know that the idea was fairly usefull to you...
August 7, 2020 at 18:54 | Unregistered Commenternick61
@Caibre65

Last days I tried both alternatives you mentioned. Here are some thoughts.

With the first, after reaching the top of the list I selected the first item. This way, I ended up with a vanilla FV chain. So, after the completion of that chain I had to go near the end of the list, selecting a new root task, following the discussed little FV-hack, otherwise I would stuck forever in a traditional, pure, FV algorithm

With the second, as you said, after reaching the top of the list without finding a task that stood out, I circled to the bottom of the list and I moved upward until a task stood out. From there I went on with the FV-hack until I reached, again, the top of the list.

So, the only difference btw the 2 alternatives is the mandatory selection of the first item of the list, when one reach it, looking for a task to stand out…. Not such a big difference.

In my opinion, the important thing is that one could go through the first item of the list, soon or later, and then decide to select it or not.

Thank you for your comments which gave me the opportunity to do some experimentation and reflections
August 11, 2020 at 12:09 | Unregistered Commenternick61
nick61:

I haven't yet tried this out but from reading the instructions I get the impression that it would work rather like FVP except that one would move towards the beginning of the list faster. I'll give it a go and report back.
August 12, 2020 at 11:00 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
@Mark:

>"…I get the impression that it would work rather like FVP except that one would move
>towards the beginning of the list faster…"

Here are my impressions:

a\ one scan the list downward less often than FVP [every time one executes a task in FVP; every time one completes a FV mini-chain in FV-hack]
b\ one moves upward faster

Both effects give me some benefits. With FVP (and its variants) one has the chance to scan the list downward maybe too often according to my preferences [every time one executes a task].

On the other side, with FVP (and its variants) I often feel uncomfortable knowing that there are dotted items at the top of the list waiting [for too long time] for execution.

I feel that the proposed FV-hack has the advantage of offering two separate and alternating phases of work:
1\ a phase of selection: upward to select a new standing out root task; and downward to select a new FV-sub-chain;
1\ a phase of execution: when one focus only on the execution, task after task, of the items of the selected chain.

I feel comfortable: knowing that I will move to the top of the list fairly fast; knowing that last and re-entered tasks, at the end of the list, will be often (but not too often!) considered for selection.

So far so good, waiting for some not yet revealed negative side effects to show up….
August 12, 2020 at 16:12 | Unregistered Commenternick61
nick61:

I did give it a go, and found that for me it moved back to the beginning rather faster than I would have liked. It didn't give me the sense of deep working that FVP does.

One has to remember that once an FVP list has matured, the tasks at the beginning of the list have already been through the process of being at the end of the list. That is one very good reason for building up the list slowly. If you make the list too long too soon you may easily end up with the situation that you have a lot of urgent tasks at the beginning of a very long list.

This is just my own personal reaction to your idea, and is not intended to put either you or other people off from using it.
August 13, 2020 at 12:10 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Thank you Mark for sharing the results of your trial.
August 13, 2020 at 13:50 | Unregistered Commenternick61