What happened to No-list FVP? - FV and FVP Forum

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Is anyone still using No-list FVP? How have they found it over time? I found that there was some attention on this system for a short while, and then it just seems to have disappeared from consciousness a little bit. I haven't seen any write-up discussing a sort of "post-mortem" analysis of the system and what worked and didn't work with it.

March 27, 2021 at 22:50 |

Aaron Hsu

I'd forgotten about No-list FVP. In fact I had to look it up to remind myself what it was.

I've also forgotten why it has disappeared into obscurity.

Reading the rules, it's a no-list system using the FVP algorithm. I think it must be the only FVP system which isn't based on a long-list.

I must have a try at it again to see what the problems were. But I won't do that until the Lent Challenge is finished. Not long now!

March 27, 2021 at 23:59 |

Mark Forster

I'd love to know when you start this and how long you intend to give it a go! I got curious because I've been going through many of the old systems, and this one has the advantage of addressing the "ordering" problem I had with 5/2 where I would always feel that the items I wrote down on my 5/2 list were out of order. I also was intrigued by the "sense of satisfaction at what I did in the day" that you claim about the system, since that's something I'm not sure I'm fully happy with right now.

March 28, 2021 at 3:47 |

Aaron Hsu

Well, I tried it last night, just before I went to bed and it worked like a dream dealing with a few minor points which weren't on my main list. It actually surprised me how quick and effective it was. Looking at the list I see that I did nine tasks in what couldn't have been more than ten or fifteen minutes.

March 28, 2021 at 8:00 |

Mark Forster

There are a couple of things which stood out for me when reading through the instructions:

1. That it's a good idea at the beginning of the day to start your list with the three or four most important tasks or projects that you want to do that day, making sure that you write them down in the reverse order that you want to do them. That then gives you a framework for the day.

2. Following on from that, you can use a project title to generate tasks related to that project.

So the list is rather more useful than just a few tasks scribbled on a bit of paper. You can use it to plan the major work subjects of the day and systematically work through what needs to be done for each of these subjects. While at the same time you can be getting minor unrelated tasks out of the way as they arise.

March 28, 2021 at 9:35 |

Mark Forster

Hrm, I'm considering trying this out after the Lenten challenge, as I think that GIRKIR is just proving to be a little too slow for me, and I'm coming to think that fast is most important to me, followed by flexibility, and last of all, by a long shot, is completeness. I think I'm probably organized enough, but it's more important that my system help me to increase focus, speed, and flexibility, and it strikes me that the no-list is probably a better approach for this as I can optimize for speed and flexibility rather than get bogged down with completeness, which I'm already naturally probably better at. I think I need to be producing more of the right things rather than covering more bases of lesser value.

This seems like a very interesting way to approach no-list, whereas what I am starting to conclude that GIRKIR is too good at balancing action over a wide range of items rather than letting me keep control of distractions and little sources of annoyance while putting the majority of my output into a few key, critical elements. I still have a few days to see if I can work that out with GIRKIR, though.

March 28, 2021 at 21:33 |

Aaron Hsu

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