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Friday
Sep042009

Working Live Today

Key:
Tasks on list at start of day
Current Task

Actioned tasks
(numbered in order of completion)
Tasks added during day

[Tasks marked for review]
—————————— = Start of Open List
(1156) timed log entry (at end)

THE LIST

13 Cancel Insurance Policies (1018)
15 Write Henry S. (1053)
[Contribute to P & Y’s Charity]
10 Buy Guillotine
[Weed Old Accounts]
[Ring Ben’s Gutters]
[Get Phoenix Insurance Claim signed]
[Investigate ways of marketing and selling E-book]
[Approaching businesses?]
11 Photo Plus Manual
[Sort out Domain hosting]
14 Photos for Facebook
12 “Taxi Driver”
[“Fanny Cradock”]
[“I Know Where I’m Going”]
[“The Edge of the World”] [1452][1534]
——————————————
Check details needed by Travel Agency
56 Schedule for Newsletters?
16 Restaurant for L’s birthday?
Card for L
Weed Noguchi
57 Portuguese 17
Aeneid
“Then She Found Me”
Write E-book
Write M
67 Read “Ultra Simple Guide”
Camera Manual
Return chalk to T
Brain trainer
17 Tidy Office
68 “Fleurs du Mal”
18 Make Bed
German 24/3
19 Facebook
50 Spanish 12/2
Mow Lawn
Sort out Google bar
Blog “7 Habits of Poor Time Managers”
“Saraband”
Write
20 Bureau Top tidy?
21 MicroPlaza
Reading List (oldest)
Reading List (newest)
G replied?
22 Desk tidy?
23 Exercise
Walk
Tax Return
Photo Galleries
Squarespace Videos
47 Check BP
Journal 10+
24 Investment Managers
25 RegZooka
26 Cut Hedge
27 NumberWatch
28 Carswell
69 “The Cell” (2300)
Paper
1 Comments (0800)
2 Voicemail

29 Fix date for lunch with Carol N
3 Email
4 FTSE (0833)
“Top Gear”
5 Lowest Point Forecast
30 Back Up
31 Reading
6 Doodle
Change Wallpaper
58 Reading List (quality)
7 Pitch C#
8 Wash Up
Autopager?
Firefox extension name?
9 Comments

Voicemail
32 Email
33 FTSE
Lowest Point Forecast
Doodle
34 Pitch C#
35 Wash Up
36 Comments (0904)
PhotoPlus Manual
“Taxi Driver”
Cancel Avon Policy
48 To Think About
37
L replied re Henry?

38 L replied re restaurant?
Check Porsche Tyres
Check Polo Service
Tidy Office
39 Read Newspaper
40 Check Site Visitors for today
Make Bed
Facebook
51 Find Driving Licence
Bureau Top Tidy?
52 Regenerate Friend Wheel
41 Ordo
Investment Managers
Carswell
59 Carol N replied re lunch?
Diaries of Adrienne v. Speyr?
42 Lunch
53 SpyZooka
RegZooka
54 Reading
Pitch C#
Write Henry
55 Book restaurant
43 Reserve District 9 and Tricks
44 Comments
45 Wash Up
46 Email
Voicemail
56 Site Visitors
Ordo
49 Comments
Wash Up (1450)(1709)(1847)(1849)
—————————————————
Check BP
60 Email
61 Comments (1528)
Check weeding schedule for old accounts
Find Phone Number for Ben’s Gutters
Prepare papers for Phoenix signing
Check domain hosting records
“Fanny Cradock”
Spanish 13
62 Tweetdeck
SpyZooka
63 Reading
64 Site Visitors (2046)
Newsletter Template
Portuguese 17/2
Try out issuu.com
Reading List (quality)
65 Email
66 Tweetdeck
Email (2057)
“Fleurs du Mal”
“The Cell”


0800. The list is divided into two unequal parts, divided by a line ———————. Different rules apply to each part. I am starting where I left off yesterday, near the end of the list. The method here is to move down the list taking action on those tasks which feel ready to be done. I will number tasks in the order they are done so you can follow the sequence. The numbers in brackets after some tasks are times, and refer to the log entries at the end of the list (of which this is the first).

0833. This is reminding me why I hate using electronic means of working a to do list! It’s slowing me down no end. The Squarespace editor is also being annoying - a blank line has appeared in the middle of the list which I don’t seem to be able to get rid of. Never mind!

0904. I’ve now reached the end of the list. My next action is to go to the beginning of the list - into the part of the list before the line (——————). Oooooerrrr!!!

1018. Within the first part of the list, I keep circling round the list until nothing further seems ready to do.

1053. I’ve now been round the first part of the list three times, and there’s nothing further that seems ready to do. So now I start on the second part of the list. I only do one pass of this before going back to the first part.

1450. Now reached the end of the list for the second time today. So back to the first part of the list (the “backlog”)

1452. None of the tasks in the “backlog” stand out for action so I have marked them all up for review (on paper I would have used a highlighter for this). At the same time I have drawn a line at the end of the list so that the whole current list becomes the “backlog”. All new tasks will now go below this line.

1528. Now reached the end of the list for the third time today. Notice how fast I moved through the list this time. Back to the beginning of the list.

1534. What I have now done is delete all the items marked for review. You will see that I have re-entered some after rephrasing them. One I have re-entered as it was (A recorded TV program that I haven’t yet had time to see). The rest I have dropped altogether because I decided the time wasn’t yet ripe for them.

1709. Reached end of first part of list - back to the beginning. On another subject, this page has been loaded 5,973 times today (and it wasn’t all by me!)

1847 End of first part of list again - back to beginning.

1849 I’ve been round the first part of the list again without any tasks seeming ready to do - so on to the second part.

2046. Page has been accessed 7,507 times today.

2057 Reached the end of the list again. Back to the beginning. I’ll select a next task, but what I’m really going to do is go and watch NCIS on tv!

2300 That’s it for today. 70 tasks completed. 8,604 page views. I hope that’s given everyone a good idea of how powerful the system is. Now I’ve just got to copy everything I’ve done today back into my paper notebook!

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Reader Comments (188)

SteveB wrote
"In AF1 however, unless you adopted a 'tweak', you would have to do at least something on at least one item on every page between where you were and the last page, which would likely be a lot slower."

This is exactly why I like Forward Mode in RAF and use it so much!

I know there are things I must do on my newest page - so I *want* to get to them.
But (following the AF1/RAF rules) I must pick at least one item on each of the earlier pages and make some progress on them in order to get there legally. With that motivation and sense of urgency, I fly through stuff - often just doing just a tiny amount for the chosen tasks - in order to get to the end page and tackle the 'must do' items on it.

Now I know I could just skip to them if I wanted to - but by not allowing myself to do so - and sticking to the 'rules' above, I create a driving force for getting things done that has seen my productivity increase many-fold.

So I wonder if the same effect is what lies behind AF4?

Paul
September 4, 2009 at 15:46 | Unregistered CommenterZytex aka Paul
Finding it a bit confusing to understand exactly what the new process is re backlogs? Can anyone explain, or must we await AF4?
September 4, 2009 at 15:53 | Unregistered CommenterCarol Davis-Wilkie
And what does it mean if <<Investigate ways of marketing and selling E-book>> was reviewed, deleted, and not re-entered? Help us give you money, man!
September 4, 2009 at 15:53 | Unregistered CommenterBrian
What gives me pause is the huge number of items on the second list ... now the FIRST list, which might possibly be put "on notice". This is exactly the feeling I had with AF2 and which caused me to challenge everything I put on the list to limit list size.
September 4, 2009 at 15:55 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Carol,

>>> Finding it a bit confusing to understand exactly what the new process is re backlogs? Can anyone explain, or must we await AF4? <<<

If on any "first pass" of the "first list" (IOW, after you have come from the second list and do a pass of the first list) nothing stands out to be done then ALL items are dismissed. Some of which may be re-aded to the end of the second list for another ride on the merry-go-round ;-)

Is that what you were asking?
September 4, 2009 at 15:59 | Unregistered CommenterMike
I suppose, after chewing on it, that I'll not be so afraid of the on-notice tasks this time because the new "rule" is that they can be immediately added back.
September 4, 2009 at 16:03 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Interesting!

It looks like AF4 is the first system in where there is a structured review of 'dismissed' (highlighted) items - where they are rephrased and re-entered into the list right away OR deleted.

In previous systems, dismissed items could potentially stay around forever, and no decision was ever forced to be made on them.

That is some serious motivation. I think I like it.
September 4, 2009 at 16:07 | Unregistered CommenterSabrina
Thanks Mike,
I think my brain must be fried because it's the end of a busy week. I basically meant I didn't understand any of the "Instructions as we know so far" but was curious about backlogs, which is my particular demon.... (Yes Mark, if you see this, I still haven't done that backlog from years ago!!!) so I think I will probably have to await the final reveal of the new AF4 at the end of today when Mark issues it. I hope he will do it in his own words as that might help me.

Kind regards,
Carol
September 4, 2009 at 16:08 | Unregistered CommenterCarol Davis-Wilkie
AF4 = ABC METHOD

Looks like there are really three sections to the list:

1. Aside = tasks set Aside a.k.a. dismissed a.k.a. marked for review (highlighted)
2. Backlog = older closed list worked in multiple rounds
3. Current = new open list worked in single rounds
September 4, 2009 at 16:24 | Unregistered Commenterubi
Yeah, but it is kind of funny ... the list of on notice tasks only lasts one round or so, then it vanishes for a while, to reise from its own ashes ;-)
September 4, 2009 at 16:29 | Unregistered CommenterMike
@Sabrina:

Re: AF4 and the "forced" review. Good point! I think you are right. In AF3 review and rewording/dismissing was only done "when it felt ready to be done". Sometimes that might be "never"!

--Joseph
September 4, 2009 at 16:41 | Unregistered CommenterJoseph
I'm back. ^^

I decided to action a task from my list - I climbed a mountain barefooted. Actually, it's more of a hill (800m high). My feet hurt. :-)

Seems I missed the dismissal. But the documentation, both from Mark and the other readers, is very good.
September 4, 2009 at 16:58 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
Andreas,

Ouch! You're a nut ;-)

What is not yet completely clear about dismissal is:

- Do you dismiss if you don't do EVERY on notice task on the first pass after on notice, or

- Do you get to cycle through the on-notice tasks so long as you do at least one on each pass ... IOW, is it more like an AF1 kind of dismissal or something new entirely.
September 4, 2009 at 17:03 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Mike,

<< - Do you dismiss if you don't do EVERY on notice task on the first pass after on notice, or

- Do you get to cycle through the on-notice tasks so long as you do at least one on each pass ... IOW, is it more like an AF1 kind of dismissal or something new entirely. >>

I think there is some confusion here. My interpretation of this was there are no tasks put 'on notice' - when no tasks are done from the 'backlog', they are dismissed/highlighted immediately.

They are revisited when the end of the list is reached, where they are forced to be re-entered or deleted.

IOW, [Tasks marked for review] = dismissed in AF1 terms.
September 4, 2009 at 17:11 | Unregistered CommenterSabrina
Mark, per my question earlier -- are you going to release the intructions of how to do AF4? It would seem that good people here have figured out most of it....but to hear the official word from you would be nice...

-David
September 4, 2009 at 17:12 | Unregistered CommenterDavid Drake
Sabrina,

As I read it, the yellow highlighter = AF1 dismissal.

BUT they are all reviewed on the next pass (no option) and actioned (if only by reentering) or sent back to the pit from whence they came. (I don't get on AT ALL well with my subconscious: does it show?)
September 4, 2009 at 17:26 | Unregistered CommenterWill
Sorry, Sabrina: I think you were saying the same as me.

Mike, if this is a demonstration of the rule, everything goes at the next pass. (I thought I detected an unholy glee in Mark's prediction that we would see some dismissing very soon.)

Crush! Kill! Destroy!
September 4, 2009 at 17:30 | Unregistered CommenterWill
Regarding the "on notice" items, I think it would make sense to have an AF1 dismissal system for them as well.

Since they have previously not "stood out" (otherwise they would not be up for review), they would most likely all be dismissed immediately but there is always the chance that you might want to rescue a few of them and I think applying the AF1 rules would allow you to do so.

Not really clear to me either at the moment. :)
September 4, 2009 at 17:41 | Unregistered CommenterFrank
I am really enjoying this live blogging and am very impressed with AF4 so far (and I have tried and liked each previous version very much). I don't think I've ever before had the chance to "watch" someone else working down a list.

Is there a slight mistake? Two items, one at the top and one at the bottom of the list, are numbered 56.
September 4, 2009 at 17:50 | Unregistered CommenterGorham
Frank,

You apply the AF1 rule to highlight them for review in the first place. The difference is that you don't get the option of NOT reviewing them at the next pass. They can be rescued by re-entering them on the main list, but only if you feel that they really belong there.
September 4, 2009 at 17:52 | Unregistered CommenterWill
I wonder when you would draw the line if you're starting out the new system from zero (or migrating from a different system).
September 4, 2009 at 18:34 | Unregistered CommenterBrian
I guess that if you migrate your current list is your 'backlog' and you start with a line under your previous entries.

If you start all over I guess you work one day only with your second (current) list and draw the line the next morning before starting your daily work.
September 4, 2009 at 18:42 | Unregistered CommenterRichard
Richard:

<< I guess that if you migrate your current list is your 'backlog' and you start with a line under your previous entries. >>

Correct

<< If you start all over I guess you work one day only with your second (current) list and draw the line the next morning before starting your daily work. >>

No, you draw up your first list (which may be quite short) and then draw a line at the end of it.
September 4, 2009 at 19:01 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Gorham:

<< Is there a slight mistake? Two items, one at the top and one at the bottom of the list, are numbered 56. >>

Very likely. It got quite difficult to remember which number to use at one stage.

Without going back and checking I would think the one at the bottom of the list is the later.
September 4, 2009 at 19:02 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
David:

<< are you going to release the intructions of how to do AF4? >>

It's all in the commentary which I put after the list. I will probably consolidate them in the next few days.
September 4, 2009 at 19:05 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Richard,

I started at the 1528 status, with a line at the bottom of my (electrical) book and about to review my "to review/dismissed" tasks either in or out below the line. Worked fine.

I'm using Outlook tasks, with categories for "closed list", "review" and "current task". Outlook gives the timestamps for both created and closed.
September 4, 2009 at 19:41 | Unregistered CommenterWill
If I'd been paying attention, I might have waited for Mark's response before jumping in, since the MarkCam is still running for a few more minutes.
September 4, 2009 at 19:50 | Unregistered CommenterWill
What do you you do with 'tasks' you want to do, but not immediately? For example, I'm told of a book that I'd like to read but it's not like I'm planning to run right out and buy it. I suppose I could stick "buy XXXX book" on the list right away, but then it would age into the 'backlog' list and then be dismissed and re-entered over and over and over.....

Is there some subsidiary list where you keep 'pended' tasks?
September 4, 2009 at 19:54 | Unregistered CommenterSusanBeth
SusanBeth:

<< What do you you do with 'tasks' you want to do, but not immediately? >>

Put a reminder in Outlook Tasks or another reminder system.
September 4, 2009 at 19:58 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Mike:

The review/dismissal rule is as follows:

If you do no tasks when you visit the first part of the list, then all tasks in the first part are put on notice for review and the line is drawn at the end of the second part so that the whole list becomes the new first part.

The next time you go to the beginning of the list, all tasks which are on notice for review are deleted. They may be re-entered (preferably re-phrased) or just dropped. So basically what happens is that you go through each task for review and decide what to do with it.
September 4, 2009 at 20:04 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Mike:

<< the new "rule" is that they can be immediately added back. >>

Yes, they *can* be, but only after thinking carefully about why they haven't yet been done.
September 4, 2009 at 20:07 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Mark,

Ah, thanks for that. Are the tasks deleted when you go to the first part straight away, or do you have the option to work on them before deleting them. Just wondering why the delay of one list cycle before deleting ... IOW, you could have skipped the "on-review" step entirely and just deleted them if there is no time lapse to work on them. Did I misunderstand? (It happens ;-)

Oh, and just a technicality, perhaps. Once you move the line to the end of the list, there is no SECOND part any longer. You are in the first part straight away. At least until you delete tasks and possibly re-add.
September 4, 2009 at 20:10 | Unregistered CommenterMike
So, if I'm reading this right, the first/backlog list might be dismissed several times a day?
September 4, 2009 at 20:10 | Unregistered CommenterBeth
Yeah, that is making more sense now.
September 4, 2009 at 20:11 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Mel:

<< When I read "wash up," I envision you washing your hands and possibly your face. Now if you had written "clean up" or "wash dishes" I would have seen you doing what you described. >>

One of those many little differences between British English and American English. "Wash up" or "Do the washing up" is the normal British English expression for "do the dishes".
September 4, 2009 at 20:11 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Beth,

I think that is right, however it would be a DIFFERENT list each time.
September 4, 2009 at 20:12 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Mike:

<< you could have skipped the "on-review" step entirely and just deleted them if there is no time lapse to work on them. >>

You are right and I did think about making it so one deleted them immediately, but then I decided that deleting them on the next pass would give one's mind more time to process the idea of deletion.
September 4, 2009 at 20:14 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Gad, I can see how wording the instructions is going to be a challenge. Those of us who have watched you know what you mean (almost ;-) I'm betting you'll have to think up names for the first and second and "on notice" parts of the list.
September 4, 2009 at 20:16 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Beth:

<< if I'm reading this right, the first/backlog list might be dismissed several times a day? >>

It *could* be, but in practice it takes several days to work through the list until there is a danger of dismissal. If I hadn't been keen to demonstrate the process to an audience, I doubt if I would have put so many tasks on notice for review so early. The previous time there were only two tasks left.
September 4, 2009 at 20:17 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Makes good sense to me.
September 4, 2009 at 20:17 | Unregistered CommenterMike
I just decided to call the not-backlog list "backfocus list" and the open list "frontfocus list". So there. :-P

Since Mark doesn't seem to have made up his mind yet, we should make suggestions. Perhaps something will stick.
September 4, 2009 at 20:18 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
<<If I hadn't been keen to demonstrate the process to an audience, I doubt if I would have put so many tasks on notice for review so early.>>

That's why I initially doubted we'd see dismissal today.
September 4, 2009 at 20:20 | Unregistered CommenterAndreas Hofmann
AF3 -> AF4 Startup Question:

I think I understand this new method (AF4). I've really liked AF3 (RAF), and would like to be lazy and just draw a line at the end, considering everything now in my notebook to be Backlog, and proceed with AF4 (rather than copying a lot of items or starting with a fresh notebook). So unless I enter several new tasks and work on some, I will get to the beginning of the Backlog almost immediately. In any case, I'll soon need to Review all highlighted tasks and delete/rephrase-reenter all of them before proceeding with non-highlighted Backlog tasks, right?
September 4, 2009 at 20:20 | Unregistered Commenterubi
Mike:

<< I'm betting you'll have to think up names for the first and second and "on notice" parts of the list. >>

Yes, that's why I wasn't terribly keen on calling Part 1 a "backlog" - it gives the wrong impression. Maybe I'll just call them the "closed" and "open" parts of the list. But then I'll still have to explain what I mean by those terms!
September 4, 2009 at 20:20 | Registered CommenterMark Forster
Andreas,

ROTF ;-) Now let's not tease Mark. I'm sure what he most wants is a barrage of silly names to cope with ;-)

Seriously, I suppose "Main" and "New" might be good for the "First" and "Second" lists. I guess "On-Notice" might be as good as anything for the transient list of items ... errrr ... on-notice. ;-)
September 4, 2009 at 20:23 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Well, for your fans, "closed" and "open" have meaning. And to those who don't know you from Adam, I think you'd have to explain the concept in any case ... so maybe nothing is lost. IOW, if you don't explain the concept of a closed list, there will be all kinds of questions about why you have two "lists" anyway.
September 4, 2009 at 20:26 | Unregistered CommenterMike
<<The next time you go to the beginning of the list, all tasks which are on notice for review are deleted.>>

I think that means the highlighter is not essential anymore, is it? Its main purpose was to make a dismissed item scream: "hey, I've been dismissed! You can come back and delete me or rephrase me or whatever when you feel like reviewing your dismissed items."

Now, with the reviewing of dismissed tasks being ingrained in the system, I think highlighting might be superfluous. Unless, of course, one wants to highlight deleted items, and I can see why one would want to do that... But I am not sure I would want to.

By the way, I think "closed" and "open" to describe the two parts of the lists make a lot of sense.
September 4, 2009 at 20:30 | Unregistered CommenterNatalia
"Beginning to flag"? ROTFLMAO ;-) You've got some serious stamina man!
September 4, 2009 at 20:31 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Natalia,

Yeah, and in an electronic implementation, completed tasks and dismissed but not re-added tasks can just be deleted, I would think.
September 4, 2009 at 20:33 | Unregistered CommenterMike
Would it be possible if someone sum up AF4 on discussion forum, every post brings new ideas and it would be easier to have it in one place, before Mark write his own in few days.
September 4, 2009 at 20:57 | Unregistered CommenterGreg
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