Discussion Forum > Personal experience with Mark's: How to Make Your Dreams...
Michael - by anxiety, I mean anticipation, excitement and doubt.
May 27, 2011 at 0:43 |
avrum
avrum
Having been away for a few day's holiday at the seaside, I took the opportunity to re-read "Dreams" for the first time for about five years.
My first reaction was "Wow, did I really write all that??" There was so much in the book which I had forgotten.
I think I've gone about as far with SuperFocus as I can for the moment, so I'm going to put the emphasis of my blog and newsletter onto "Dreams" for the time being.
My first reaction was "Wow, did I really write all that??" There was so much in the book which I had forgotten.
I think I've gone about as far with SuperFocus as I can for the moment, so I'm going to put the emphasis of my blog and newsletter onto "Dreams" for the time being.
May 27, 2011 at 17:02 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Here's an article I wrote as a sort of postscript to "Dreams". It gives some suggestions about how to improve the way your goals pull you by removing negative emotions, such as guilt, which may be impeding them.
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2006/8/15/guilty-goals.html
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2006/8/15/guilty-goals.html
May 27, 2011 at 17:15 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
<<I think I've gone about as far with SuperFocus as I can for the moment, so I'm going to put the emphasis of my blog and newsletter onto "Dreams" for the time being. >>
Yipppeeeeee!!!! Best news I've heard all week (and I had a good week)
I'm going through "Dreams" for a 2nd time, and discovering a lot of gems I missed (or forgot). Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts on this matter.
Yipppeeeeee!!!! Best news I've heard all week (and I had a good week)
I'm going through "Dreams" for a 2nd time, and discovering a lot of gems I missed (or forgot). Looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts on this matter.
May 27, 2011 at 18:08 |
avrum
avrum
< I'm going to put the emphasis of my blog and newsletter onto "Dreams" for the time being. >>
That's really good news Mark. A five-yearly review of your experiences post-Dreams would be very valuable I believe.
That's really good news Mark. A five-yearly review of your experiences post-Dreams would be very valuable I believe.
May 27, 2011 at 20:10 |
michael
michael
I hope, Mark, you can manage to compare and contrast these doing lists with the Dreams approach. Nature, strengths and weaknesses of each. I'm so far not inclined to read Dreams, and that's largely because it doesn't fit my current frame of mind. It feels weird and I'm not sure what to make of it.
May 27, 2011 at 21:50 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
<<I'm going to put the emphasis of my blog and newsletter onto "Dreams" for the time being.>>
What excellent, timely news, Mark!
This morning, I reached the following passage, which is one of my favorites:
"With a clear overall vision there is often little need to set short-term goals. The problem with short-term goals is that they are often too prescriptive of how you are going to get to your vision. As soon as you start setting time targets and working out actions that need to be done by them you are committing yourself to a specific way of getting to where you want to be. You have ceased to allow your mind to be creative about achieving the goal."
(found under 27 August, section labeled "Short-term goals," p. 62 of 137 in my downloaded version)
If you are going to climb a mountain for two weeks, you will want to put a lot of planning into your gear and provisions, but you will not want to plan in advance where to place each footstep among the rocks on the trail. There is a right level of planning that takes place at the level of vision and tools and process, but not at the level of a step-by-step script. The script is rigid and fragile and will keep you spinning your wheels updating and researching whenever something changes. Ryan's "anti-fragility" topic at http://www.markforster.net/forum/post/1497737 relates to this.
It strikes me that _Dreams_ is about this right level of planning: how to think about it, how to do it, and how to keep it working. It feels like exactly what I need to pay attention to right now.
What excellent, timely news, Mark!
This morning, I reached the following passage, which is one of my favorites:
"With a clear overall vision there is often little need to set short-term goals. The problem with short-term goals is that they are often too prescriptive of how you are going to get to your vision. As soon as you start setting time targets and working out actions that need to be done by them you are committing yourself to a specific way of getting to where you want to be. You have ceased to allow your mind to be creative about achieving the goal."
(found under 27 August, section labeled "Short-term goals," p. 62 of 137 in my downloaded version)
If you are going to climb a mountain for two weeks, you will want to put a lot of planning into your gear and provisions, but you will not want to plan in advance where to place each footstep among the rocks on the trail. There is a right level of planning that takes place at the level of vision and tools and process, but not at the level of a step-by-step script. The script is rigid and fragile and will keep you spinning your wheels updating and researching whenever something changes. Ryan's "anti-fragility" topic at http://www.markforster.net/forum/post/1497737 relates to this.
It strikes me that _Dreams_ is about this right level of planning: how to think about it, how to do it, and how to keep it working. It feels like exactly what I need to pay attention to right now.
May 27, 2011 at 22:23 |
Bernie
Bernie
In "Dreams", Mark suggests working on a small goal i.e. Email backlog, before tackling a large 3-5 year dream/goal. He also states:
"...to let things happen rather than make them happen. This means that we will be using the unconscious areas of our minds."
I didn't have much success with my short-term goal - create a nightly ritual - and I'm wondering if the power of Dreams is when it truly is a DREAM, rather than something we think we should do.
Curious what other think?
"...to let things happen rather than make them happen. This means that we will be using the unconscious areas of our minds."
I didn't have much success with my short-term goal - create a nightly ritual - and I'm wondering if the power of Dreams is when it truly is a DREAM, rather than something we think we should do.
Curious what other think?
May 27, 2011 at 22:29 |
avrum
avrum
Mark's suggested steps:
1. What is the goal?
2. How does the (insert short-term goal) make you feel?
3. Rephrase the goal so that it describes what you do want:
4. Place the goal in the present tense, and add feelings!
5. Now check that the emotions are ones which you do want, not ones which you don’t want.
6. That’s your goal drafted.
My short-term goal (Implementing a nightly ritual) had little to no feelings associated to it. I'm not so naive to think that changing a few words, or adding feelings, will magically create a PULL scenario... but I can't be too critical of these instructions if I haven't followed them. Ok, time for a re-draft.
1. What is the goal?
2. How does the (insert short-term goal) make you feel?
3. Rephrase the goal so that it describes what you do want:
4. Place the goal in the present tense, and add feelings!
5. Now check that the emotions are ones which you do want, not ones which you don’t want.
6. That’s your goal drafted.
My short-term goal (Implementing a nightly ritual) had little to no feelings associated to it. I'm not so naive to think that changing a few words, or adding feelings, will magically create a PULL scenario... but I can't be too critical of these instructions if I haven't followed them. Ok, time for a re-draft.
May 27, 2011 at 22:36 |
avrum
avrum
Your goal is too clinical. Unless there's specific content to that evening habit, it's meaningless.
May 27, 2011 at 22:53 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
<<Your goal is too clinical. Unless there's specific content to that evening habit, it's meaningless>>
Er, I hate to hear what you have to say about Mark's short-term goal (in Dreams):
"I want to be completely up to date with my e-mail."
Er, I hate to hear what you have to say about Mark's short-term goal (in Dreams):
"I want to be completely up to date with my e-mail."
May 27, 2011 at 23:28 |
avrum
avrum
Mark (if you're reading), I'm curious about this piece of dialogue:
Q And getting important things done?
A Yes, everything that really needed to be done got done.
Q That’s brilliant! So you already have got three areas well ordered, and this seems to be happening naturally?
A Yes, I don’t have to force myself to do them at all.
What would have happened if you were feeling the ol' resentment and/or procrastination around order? Would you wait until PULL energy struck? Leave your house a mess? Curious.
Q And getting important things done?
A Yes, everything that really needed to be done got done.
Q That’s brilliant! So you already have got three areas well ordered, and this seems to be happening naturally?
A Yes, I don’t have to force myself to do them at all.
What would have happened if you were feeling the ol' resentment and/or procrastination around order? Would you wait until PULL energy struck? Leave your house a mess? Curious.
May 27, 2011 at 23:33 |
avrum
avrum
avrum:
<< Er, I hate to hear what you have to say about Mark's short-term goal (in Dreams):
"I want to be completely up to date with my e-mail." >>
If you read on a bit you'd find that I suggested that this e-mail goal should be re-phrased:
"I am delighted that I am completely up-to-date with my e-mail. My work is so much easier now and I feel much more relaxed."
To remind you, a goal should be:
1) What you want, not what you don't want.
2) In the present tense, as if you were describing it once you have reached it.
3) Include a description of how the achievement of the goal makes you feel.
4) Rephrase any feelings which are what you don't want (e.g. "has taken a load off my mind") so they are what you do want (e.g. "I feel much more relaxed")
<< Er, I hate to hear what you have to say about Mark's short-term goal (in Dreams):
"I want to be completely up to date with my e-mail." >>
If you read on a bit you'd find that I suggested that this e-mail goal should be re-phrased:
"I am delighted that I am completely up-to-date with my e-mail. My work is so much easier now and I feel much more relaxed."
To remind you, a goal should be:
1) What you want, not what you don't want.
2) In the present tense, as if you were describing it once you have reached it.
3) Include a description of how the achievement of the goal makes you feel.
4) Rephrase any feelings which are what you don't want (e.g. "has taken a load off my mind") so they are what you do want (e.g. "I feel much more relaxed")
May 27, 2011 at 23:40 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
avrum:
<< What would have happened if you were feeling the ol' resentment and/or procrastination around order? >>
I would first make sure that the goal for "order" was compelling (see previous post). And I would be sure to put ANY improvement relating to order on the What's Better list (as I did in the book). Then I would report honestly on a daily basis the present situation, including my feelings about it. That would include "the ol' resentment and/or procrastination" if applicable. I would also keep the goal itself under revision.
You will find several occasions in the book when I say something on the lines of "I'll do it when I feel like doing it and not before". That would definitely apply here. The whole point of the methods in "Dreams" is that you don't push yourself to do things. You let them happen.
<< What would have happened if you were feeling the ol' resentment and/or procrastination around order? >>
I would first make sure that the goal for "order" was compelling (see previous post). And I would be sure to put ANY improvement relating to order on the What's Better list (as I did in the book). Then I would report honestly on a daily basis the present situation, including my feelings about it. That would include "the ol' resentment and/or procrastination" if applicable. I would also keep the goal itself under revision.
You will find several occasions in the book when I say something on the lines of "I'll do it when I feel like doing it and not before". That would definitely apply here. The whole point of the methods in "Dreams" is that you don't push yourself to do things. You let them happen.
May 27, 2011 at 23:49 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Alan:
<< I hope, Mark, you can manage to compare and contrast these doing lists with the Dreams approach. Nature, strengths and weaknesses of each. >>
You'll find a compare and contrast description of the two approaches in the book (p. 19).
<< I hope, Mark, you can manage to compare and contrast these doing lists with the Dreams approach. Nature, strengths and weaknesses of each. >>
You'll find a compare and contrast description of the two approaches in the book (p. 19).
May 28, 2011 at 0:11 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
<<The whole point of the methods in "Dreams" is that you don't push yourself to do things. You let them happen.>>
I've been conditioned to spend so much time on push, it's almost unbelievable that pull is possible. And yet, I have tasted pull once or twice, and would like this to happen more than once every 5 years or so. That's why I'm really giving your book the attention (I think) it deserves. For now, its clear I'm missing some critical elements. Thank you so much for clarifying...
I've been conditioned to spend so much time on push, it's almost unbelievable that pull is possible. And yet, I have tasted pull once or twice, and would like this to happen more than once every 5 years or so. That's why I'm really giving your book the attention (I think) it deserves. For now, its clear I'm missing some critical elements. Thank you so much for clarifying...
May 28, 2011 at 0:15 |
avrum
avrum
avrum:
<< For now, its clear I'm missing some critical elements. >>
I think the best thing for you to do is to keep working on the methods to the best of your understanding and at the same time keep re-reading the book. It's surprising how much you miss on first (or even second or third) reading.
Remember the real motivator is the gap between your Future Reality and your Present Reality. You have to keep your mind working on both. If you do this, your mind will automatically start to act as a filter to bring forward the actions which will make your Future Reality and your Present Reality coincide.
I give a simile in the book of its being like reading a map. You need to know two things: A) where you are, and B) where you are going. Only if you know both can you get from A to B successfully.
<< For now, its clear I'm missing some critical elements. >>
I think the best thing for you to do is to keep working on the methods to the best of your understanding and at the same time keep re-reading the book. It's surprising how much you miss on first (or even second or third) reading.
Remember the real motivator is the gap between your Future Reality and your Present Reality. You have to keep your mind working on both. If you do this, your mind will automatically start to act as a filter to bring forward the actions which will make your Future Reality and your Present Reality coincide.
I give a simile in the book of its being like reading a map. You need to know two things: A) where you are, and B) where you are going. Only if you know both can you get from A to B successfully.
May 28, 2011 at 9:56 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
avrum:
<< I didn't have much success with my short-term goal - create a nightly ritual >>
I read what you wrote here again while looking back through the posts and something struck me about it. In Dreams the idea is to be able do what you feel like when you feel like it. And you are trying to use it to construct a rigid series of actions.
Maybe a bit too contradictory for your first attempt?
<< I didn't have much success with my short-term goal - create a nightly ritual >>
I read what you wrote here again while looking back through the posts and something struck me about it. In Dreams the idea is to be able do what you feel like when you feel like it. And you are trying to use it to construct a rigid series of actions.
Maybe a bit too contradictory for your first attempt?
May 28, 2011 at 10:32 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
I have a dim memory of Mark writing--either somewhere online or in one of his books--that he tried doing what he felt like when he felt like it, and, ultimately, found it to be a miserable failure. I thought that was why he moved on to Do It Tomorrow, Autofocus, DWM, SF, etc.
Of course, we all know, there are successful people out there who seem to operate by pull. They don't keep obsessive lists. They might write stuff down in certain situations, but they don't do it systematically. They decide what they want and then they go for it.
But those people tend not to buy Mark's books are follow his forum.
What am I missing?
Of course, we all know, there are successful people out there who seem to operate by pull. They don't keep obsessive lists. They might write stuff down in certain situations, but they don't do it systematically. They decide what they want and then they go for it.
But those people tend not to buy Mark's books are follow his forum.
What am I missing?
May 28, 2011 at 23:11 |
moises
moises
<<Maybe a bit too contradictory for your first attempt? >>
Perhaps. Though I'm wondering about a rephrase, highlighting what I want, and in the present-tense. We'll see...
Perhaps. Though I'm wondering about a rephrase, highlighting what I want, and in the present-tense. We'll see...
May 29, 2011 at 2:18 |
avrum
avrum
I have my own paraphrasing of Mark's processes which clarified things a little for me.
For me there are two possible starting points: "I want to get somewhere and my ego is driven to get there" or a more subtle and more important "something in my life is not right" (a vague discomfort, longing, want or heartfelt need). I say more important because these tend to be more heartfelt from my inner promptings than chasing head-based ego goals.
I then move to a "How can I be more aware of and fine-tune this perception?"
I start by putting words to the vagueness. I try out several ways of verbalising it to gain clarity. This can mean a growth in my way of seeing myself or my habits and patterns of thought. It's often growth that is more important than the outer goal-seeking which only brings a change of circumstance.
The process:
- What do I want AND what do I BELIEVE I will gain from getting it? How good are my beliefs about what will really bring me the quality of being I seek?
- What is my higher purpose? The desire that would bring most joyful self-expression of my talents? I use my imagination to bring forward a symbol to represent the energy of that purpose. I dialogue with it or draw it to see what it has to "say".
- What would I need to let go of or outgrow in order to pursue it?
- How is this furture me different?
- What activities arise from comparing Present Time with Highest and Best Future? How do I intend to get the outcome I seek?
For me there are two possible starting points: "I want to get somewhere and my ego is driven to get there" or a more subtle and more important "something in my life is not right" (a vague discomfort, longing, want or heartfelt need). I say more important because these tend to be more heartfelt from my inner promptings than chasing head-based ego goals.
I then move to a "How can I be more aware of and fine-tune this perception?"
I start by putting words to the vagueness. I try out several ways of verbalising it to gain clarity. This can mean a growth in my way of seeing myself or my habits and patterns of thought. It's often growth that is more important than the outer goal-seeking which only brings a change of circumstance.
The process:
- What do I want AND what do I BELIEVE I will gain from getting it? How good are my beliefs about what will really bring me the quality of being I seek?
- What is my higher purpose? The desire that would bring most joyful self-expression of my talents? I use my imagination to bring forward a symbol to represent the energy of that purpose. I dialogue with it or draw it to see what it has to "say".
- What would I need to let go of or outgrow in order to pursue it?
- How is this furture me different?
- What activities arise from comparing Present Time with Highest and Best Future? How do I intend to get the outcome I seek?
May 29, 2011 at 10:22 |
michael
michael
moises:
<< I have a dim memory of Mark writing--either somewhere online or in one of his books--that he tried doing what he felt like when he felt like it, and, ultimately, found it to be a miserable failure.>>
I think the context of my remarks was that doing what I feel like when I feel like it always leads one inevitably into Drift Mode UNLESS one has a strong vision which pulls one towards it.
Near the beginning of Do It Tomorrow I said:
"Although [the Dreams methods] worked well, there was a tendency among readers to think that they could realise their goals without having to do the fairly structured work on them that I recommended. The result was that they tended to drift rather than move purposely towards their goals."
The reason I embarked on Do It Tomorrow, Autofocus, DWM, SF, etc. was because it's actually easier to teach a mechanical method. I was also very keen to find a mechanical method which used the power of the unconscious mind in the way that Dreams did.
Whether I was right to do this, I don't know. It did however mean that I myself had to abandon the Dreams methods in order to develop the new systems.
Using "Dreams" I built my business from nothing into a six-figure income in hardly any time at all. Using "Do It Tomorrow" I maintained the business for several years, but not the fit. Using AF/SF etc I earned nothing at all (apart from my readers' kind donations). I enjoyed the process but greatly missed that sense of vision which Dreams gives.
As an afternote I might mention that Dreams was far better for keeping physically fit and the right weight than any of the other methods.
<< I have a dim memory of Mark writing--either somewhere online or in one of his books--that he tried doing what he felt like when he felt like it, and, ultimately, found it to be a miserable failure.>>
I think the context of my remarks was that doing what I feel like when I feel like it always leads one inevitably into Drift Mode UNLESS one has a strong vision which pulls one towards it.
Near the beginning of Do It Tomorrow I said:
"Although [the Dreams methods] worked well, there was a tendency among readers to think that they could realise their goals without having to do the fairly structured work on them that I recommended. The result was that they tended to drift rather than move purposely towards their goals."
The reason I embarked on Do It Tomorrow, Autofocus, DWM, SF, etc. was because it's actually easier to teach a mechanical method. I was also very keen to find a mechanical method which used the power of the unconscious mind in the way that Dreams did.
Whether I was right to do this, I don't know. It did however mean that I myself had to abandon the Dreams methods in order to develop the new systems.
Using "Dreams" I built my business from nothing into a six-figure income in hardly any time at all. Using "Do It Tomorrow" I maintained the business for several years, but not the fit. Using AF/SF etc I earned nothing at all (apart from my readers' kind donations). I enjoyed the process but greatly missed that sense of vision which Dreams gives.
As an afternote I might mention that Dreams was far better for keeping physically fit and the right weight than any of the other methods.
May 29, 2011 at 10:31 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
avrum:
<< Perhaps. Though I'm wondering about a rephrase, highlighting what I want, and in the present-tense. We'll see... >>
If your goal doesn't already have these things, then you haven't really been following the goal achievement method. If your goal isn't strong enough, then you will inevitably end up in Drift Mode - as I describe in my posts to moises above and michael below.
You should be revising both the goal (Future Reality) and the Current Reality on a daily basis until the two coincide.
<< Perhaps. Though I'm wondering about a rephrase, highlighting what I want, and in the present-tense. We'll see... >>
If your goal doesn't already have these things, then you haven't really been following the goal achievement method. If your goal isn't strong enough, then you will inevitably end up in Drift Mode - as I describe in my posts to moises above and michael below.
You should be revising both the goal (Future Reality) and the Current Reality on a daily basis until the two coincide.
May 29, 2011 at 10:34 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
michael:
Hmm.... what you say is valid but I think you need to be careful not to be too analytical, especially at the beginning.
One thing I don't think I emphasized enough in the book is how important to the whole process is the continued revision of the vision/goal (Future Reality). In a way it doesn't really matter what this vision is when you start out because you will become more and more aware of what it is that you really want as you keep revising it. You will also become much more aware of what you don't want.
So a lot of what you say should emerge in a natural way from the process itself.
Hmm.... what you say is valid but I think you need to be careful not to be too analytical, especially at the beginning.
One thing I don't think I emphasized enough in the book is how important to the whole process is the continued revision of the vision/goal (Future Reality). In a way it doesn't really matter what this vision is when you start out because you will become more and more aware of what it is that you really want as you keep revising it. You will also become much more aware of what you don't want.
So a lot of what you say should emerge in a natural way from the process itself.
May 29, 2011 at 10:46 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
<<So a lot of what you say should emerge in a natural way from the process itself. >>
That's been my experience too. The starting point for a newbie may as well be: "What do I want?" or "What do I no longer want?", repeated daily for (say) 2 weeks. and I agree about not being over-analytical. After all, it's the non-analytical we want to allow to express itself.
I've often been quite a driven person myself and try to balance using Dreams to develop inner qualities of pleasure and peace in living.
What would Dreams 2.0 be like Mark?
That's been my experience too. The starting point for a newbie may as well be: "What do I want?" or "What do I no longer want?", repeated daily for (say) 2 weeks. and I agree about not being over-analytical. After all, it's the non-analytical we want to allow to express itself.
I've often been quite a driven person myself and try to balance using Dreams to develop inner qualities of pleasure and peace in living.
What would Dreams 2.0 be like Mark?
May 29, 2011 at 12:23 |
michael
michael
michael:
<< What would Dreams 2.0 be like Mark? >>
I don't think there's anything wrong with the basic methods - I think what I would want to improve is the way in which it is presented.
Just revisiting the book and the methods over the past few days, I have noted the following points (and I'm sure there are a lot more to come):
1) I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.
2) I would put more stress on how important it is to work with the Present and Future Realities - not just to re-read them regularly but to continually revise them.
3) In the book the main emphasis was on the dialoguing. I think now that the dialoguing is probably the least important part, and is also something which many people find quite difficult. I wouldn't want to drop it altogether but if one is short of time then I would regard the What's Better list as the most essential, then the Present and Future realities, and last the dialoguing.
These are really just initial thoughts. I need to spend more time again with it before deciding on anything definite.
<< What would Dreams 2.0 be like Mark? >>
I don't think there's anything wrong with the basic methods - I think what I would want to improve is the way in which it is presented.
Just revisiting the book and the methods over the past few days, I have noted the following points (and I'm sure there are a lot more to come):
1) I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.
2) I would put more stress on how important it is to work with the Present and Future Realities - not just to re-read them regularly but to continually revise them.
3) In the book the main emphasis was on the dialoguing. I think now that the dialoguing is probably the least important part, and is also something which many people find quite difficult. I wouldn't want to drop it altogether but if one is short of time then I would regard the What's Better list as the most essential, then the Present and Future realities, and last the dialoguing.
These are really just initial thoughts. I need to spend more time again with it before deciding on anything definite.
May 29, 2011 at 15:15 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Mark:
<<If your goal doesn't already have these things, then you haven't really been following the goal achievement method.>>
I was trying to find a short-term goal (as you suggested: one that can be done in a day), to get comfortable with GAM, self-coaching, etc. However this thread, and your help, has led me to a mid-term goal (4-6 monts), one that I'm very excited about.
<<If your goal isn't strong enough, then you will inevitably end up in Drift Mode>>
I'm planning to create a graphic novel, based on my tween/teen years entitled: How Motley Crue Saved My Life: Growing up in Chomedy during the 70s & 80s.
The catch: I'm an amateur artists at best, and I've never created a graphic novel/comic before. And though I haven't applied GAM to this goal yet, the mere thinking about this goal - within a "Dreams" framework, is creating daily gains. Really incredible.
Perhaps we should create a new thread, one where we can post our short/long term goals (and updates). Any objections?
<<If your goal doesn't already have these things, then you haven't really been following the goal achievement method.>>
I was trying to find a short-term goal (as you suggested: one that can be done in a day), to get comfortable with GAM, self-coaching, etc. However this thread, and your help, has led me to a mid-term goal (4-6 monts), one that I'm very excited about.
<<If your goal isn't strong enough, then you will inevitably end up in Drift Mode>>
I'm planning to create a graphic novel, based on my tween/teen years entitled: How Motley Crue Saved My Life: Growing up in Chomedy during the 70s & 80s.
The catch: I'm an amateur artists at best, and I've never created a graphic novel/comic before. And though I haven't applied GAM to this goal yet, the mere thinking about this goal - within a "Dreams" framework, is creating daily gains. Really incredible.
Perhaps we should create a new thread, one where we can post our short/long term goals (and updates). Any objections?
May 29, 2011 at 16:42 |
avrum
avrum
Michael:
<< "What do I want?" or "What do I no longer want?" repeated daily for (say) 2 weeks>>
I really like where you're going with this. I've found that I get bogged down trying to find that perfect, flow-like, project/goal, leading to paralysis. This happened during my reading of Wishcraft (many years ago), and almost happened during Dreams.
<< "What do I want?" or "What do I no longer want?" repeated daily for (say) 2 weeks>>
I really like where you're going with this. I've found that I get bogged down trying to find that perfect, flow-like, project/goal, leading to paralysis. This happened during my reading of Wishcraft (many years ago), and almost happened during Dreams.
May 29, 2011 at 16:45 |
avrum
avrum
Mark:
<<I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
Brilliant, simply brilliant. I would have found that very helpful. Although this process - reading Dreams, posting updates on this forum, and getting corrections/suggestions - is working as well.
<< would put more stress on how important it is to work with the Present and Future Realities - not just to re-read them regularly but to continually revise them>>
Brian Tracy recommends something similar i.e. a daily re-writing of your top goals, without looking at the previous day. His thesis is that, over time, this process will sift out the quality goals, from the gunk
.
<<which many people find quite difficult>>
Very difficult - though I enjoyed reading how you did this. Your future-self questions/coaching was intriguing... so much so, I became frustrated with my own attempts. I can't help but wonder if this is due to your coaching background. I've refined this approach via a daily morning walk, and recording a stream of consciousness dialogue about my progress, challenges, etc.
<<I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
Brilliant, simply brilliant. I would have found that very helpful. Although this process - reading Dreams, posting updates on this forum, and getting corrections/suggestions - is working as well.
<< would put more stress on how important it is to work with the Present and Future Realities - not just to re-read them regularly but to continually revise them>>
Brian Tracy recommends something similar i.e. a daily re-writing of your top goals, without looking at the previous day. His thesis is that, over time, this process will sift out the quality goals, from the gunk
.
<<which many people find quite difficult>>
Very difficult - though I enjoyed reading how you did this. Your future-self questions/coaching was intriguing... so much so, I became frustrated with my own attempts. I can't help but wonder if this is due to your coaching background. I've refined this approach via a daily morning walk, and recording a stream of consciousness dialogue about my progress, challenges, etc.
May 29, 2011 at 16:58 |
avrum
avrum
avrum:
<<perfect, flow-like, project/goal,>>
But remember we often have to change who we are before that goal IS the right one, in the meantime our attitude and beliefs about who we are and where we are mustn't "invalidate the stepping stones". our current circumstances often motivate or change our thought patterns or perspectives in ways that the preferred goal will allow us to enjoy more. I think relying on the future goal as the one that will allow you to be flowing and perfect might limit you. Perhaps focusing on those qualities now will be better. There are always small examples of what we seek in our current environment. As we notice them they grow.
<<perfect, flow-like, project/goal,>>
But remember we often have to change who we are before that goal IS the right one, in the meantime our attitude and beliefs about who we are and where we are mustn't "invalidate the stepping stones". our current circumstances often motivate or change our thought patterns or perspectives in ways that the preferred goal will allow us to enjoy more. I think relying on the future goal as the one that will allow you to be flowing and perfect might limit you. Perhaps focusing on those qualities now will be better. There are always small examples of what we seek in our current environment. As we notice them they grow.
May 29, 2011 at 17:17 |
michael
michael
Mark said <Using "Dreams" I built my business from nothing into a six-figure income in hardly any time at all. Using "Do It Tomorrow" I maintained the business for several years, but not the fit. Using AF/SF etc I earned nothing at all (apart from my readers' kind donations). I enjoyed the process but greatly missed that sense of vision which Dreams gives.>
I take it as obvious that running a task management system doesn't of itself lead to major accomplishments. You need goals and plans to get somewhere. In fact I see that as the remaining element missing from the autofocus series: the bigger perspective. Still, I wonder whether it was anything besides retirement that ultimately affected your income. (and maybe the deliberate avoidance of dream technology).
I Feel your AutoFocus experiment is a success and the process framework is a boon to help overwhelmed people tread water. Next is to get swimming.
I take it as obvious that running a task management system doesn't of itself lead to major accomplishments. You need goals and plans to get somewhere. In fact I see that as the remaining element missing from the autofocus series: the bigger perspective. Still, I wonder whether it was anything besides retirement that ultimately affected your income. (and maybe the deliberate avoidance of dream technology).
I Feel your AutoFocus experiment is a success and the process framework is a boon to help overwhelmed people tread water. Next is to get swimming.
May 29, 2011 at 17:24 |
Alan Baljeu
Alan Baljeu
avrum:
<< I've found that I get bogged down trying to find that perfect, flow-like, project/goal, leading to paralysis. >>
Even in the short space of three days my goal has changed quite a bit:
Day 1:
I am living a very well-ordered life in which the principles of "How To Make Your Dreams Come True" are put fully into practice. I love creating and everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. I am extremely healthy and fit. I have a close circle of friends. All this makes me feel alive, full of energy and peaceful.
Day 3:
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are successfully put into practice. I love the feeling that everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is extremely well-ordered, so that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic and my life is spacious and exciting. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for life, and I take care to maintain those relationships.
Although the content is much the same, the way it flows has changed considerably. I would expect it to change enormously over the next few weeks. Whether that will involve becoming more concrete I don't know. The point is that as I continue to work on it it becomes more "me".
<< I've found that I get bogged down trying to find that perfect, flow-like, project/goal, leading to paralysis. >>
Even in the short space of three days my goal has changed quite a bit:
Day 1:
I am living a very well-ordered life in which the principles of "How To Make Your Dreams Come True" are put fully into practice. I love creating and everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. I am extremely healthy and fit. I have a close circle of friends. All this makes me feel alive, full of energy and peaceful.
Day 3:
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are successfully put into practice. I love the feeling that everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is extremely well-ordered, so that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic and my life is spacious and exciting. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for life, and I take care to maintain those relationships.
Although the content is much the same, the way it flows has changed considerably. I would expect it to change enormously over the next few weeks. Whether that will involve becoming more concrete I don't know. The point is that as I continue to work on it it becomes more "me".
May 29, 2011 at 17:55 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
avrum:
In connection with Brian Tracey's recommendation about goals you might find the following article interesting:
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2008/8/7/what-do-you-really-want-out-of-life.html
In connection with Brian Tracey's recommendation about goals you might find the following article interesting:
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2008/8/7/what-do-you-really-want-out-of-life.html
May 29, 2011 at 18:11 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Mark:
<<I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
Sitting here in a coffee shop, working on my mid-range goal, i'm thinking about your comment above. I'm going to be your guinea pig, and follow your thinking circa 2011. I'm shooting for a 3-5 year vision, and will use your methods, and this forum, for support. Onwards...
<<I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
Sitting here in a coffee shop, working on my mid-range goal, i'm thinking about your comment above. I'm going to be your guinea pig, and follow your thinking circa 2011. I'm shooting for a 3-5 year vision, and will use your methods, and this forum, for support. Onwards...
May 29, 2011 at 18:29 |
avrum
avrum
Mark:
<<Even in the short space of three days my goal has changed quite a bit:>>
Would you mind sharing your process? For example, do you do this review/revising in the morning? Evening? At home?
<<Even in the short space of three days my goal has changed quite a bit:>>
Would you mind sharing your process? For example, do you do this review/revising in the morning? Evening? At home?
May 29, 2011 at 18:31 |
avrum
avrum
Avrum:
I usually do the Future and Current Realities first thing.
I keep the What's Better list going throughout the day, but review and complete it at the close of the day.
I don't have a set time for the Dialogue. Usually I fit it in when I've got 5 or 10 minutes spare or when I feel the need.
Incidentally I do them on my computer, not on paper, contrary to my practice with DIT onwards. I think it's important though not to cut and paste the Future and Current Realities. I type them out afresh each time, amending them as I go.
I usually do the Future and Current Realities first thing.
I keep the What's Better list going throughout the day, but review and complete it at the close of the day.
I don't have a set time for the Dialogue. Usually I fit it in when I've got 5 or 10 minutes spare or when I feel the need.
Incidentally I do them on my computer, not on paper, contrary to my practice with DIT onwards. I think it's important though not to cut and paste the Future and Current Realities. I type them out afresh each time, amending them as I go.
May 29, 2011 at 23:34 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
<<I usually do the Future and Current Realities first thing>>
Interesting. In Dreams, you suggested doing self-coaching 1st thing, and the Future/Current daily, moving to weekly.
<<I think it's important though not to cut and paste the Future and Current Realities. I type them out afresh each time, amending them as I go>>
Wow, you re-type your future reality afresh daily. My initial impression is: "That's a lot of work". But I'm going to try it.
Interesting. In Dreams, you suggested doing self-coaching 1st thing, and the Future/Current daily, moving to weekly.
<<I think it's important though not to cut and paste the Future and Current Realities. I type them out afresh each time, amending them as I go>>
Wow, you re-type your future reality afresh daily. My initial impression is: "That's a lot of work". But I'm going to try it.
May 30, 2011 at 0:03 |
avrum
avrum
avrum:
If you want to impress something on your mind, the secret is repetition.
If you want to impress something on your mind, the secret is repetition.
May 30, 2011 at 0:05 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
Mark - some questions regarding the future vision/goal. In Dreams, your future vision (opening scenario) is quite detailed, and fantastical. In your example above i.e. Day 1, your goal feels "very down to earth". I'm wondering if you're rethinking the fantastical for the more practical (I hope not - I really like the idea of jotting down a wild plan as fodder for the unconscious). Moreover, your currents suggestion (type your future/current realities afresh each day) sounds like it would work with Day 1, but would require more labor with your vision in Dreams.
Last question - did you (or your clients) encounter any superstitious stumbling blocks around stating things like: "My health will be better than ever..." or "My new baby girl is doing...". I did, and I'm not sure what to do about it.
Any thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.
Last question - did you (or your clients) encounter any superstitious stumbling blocks around stating things like: "My health will be better than ever..." or "My new baby girl is doing...". I did, and I'm not sure what to do about it.
Any thoughts on this matter would be appreciated.
May 30, 2011 at 4:50 |
avrum
avrum
<<In connection with Brian Tracey's recommendation about goals you might find the following article interesting:
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2008/8/7/what-do-you-really-want-out-of-life.html >>
Mark - brilliant stuff. I wonder if this exercise should proceed GAM.
http://www.markforster.net/blog/2008/8/7/what-do-you-really-want-out-of-life.html >>
Mark - brilliant stuff. I wonder if this exercise should proceed GAM.
May 30, 2011 at 5:33 |
avrum
avrum
Wow, what excellent posts I have missed these past couple of days!
avrum:
<<I've been conditioned to spend so much time on push, it's almost unbelievable that pull is possible. And yet, I have tasted pull once or twice, and would like this to happen more than once every 5 years or so.>>
Amen! This is why I felt so tremendously excited the first time I read this book. Then, ironically, I said to myself, "I'll just start on this when I have a little more time ..."
Mark:
<<I think the best thing for you to do is to keep working on the methods to the best of your understanding and at the same time keep re-reading the book. It's surprising how much you miss on first (or even second or third) reading.>>
Yes, the second read has been very enlightening. I've ended up rereading certain pages many additional times, due to forgetting where I was, and there really are so many new connections to make each time ... this is truly a unique book in the genre. I can't help wondering whether the array of fluff that must have sat next to this book, in that section of the bookstore, limited its sales. If so, that is a shame.
avrum:
<<I've been conditioned to spend so much time on push, it's almost unbelievable that pull is possible. And yet, I have tasted pull once or twice, and would like this to happen more than once every 5 years or so.>>
Amen! This is why I felt so tremendously excited the first time I read this book. Then, ironically, I said to myself, "I'll just start on this when I have a little more time ..."
Mark:
<<I think the best thing for you to do is to keep working on the methods to the best of your understanding and at the same time keep re-reading the book. It's surprising how much you miss on first (or even second or third) reading.>>
Yes, the second read has been very enlightening. I've ended up rereading certain pages many additional times, due to forgetting where I was, and there really are so many new connections to make each time ... this is truly a unique book in the genre. I can't help wondering whether the array of fluff that must have sat next to this book, in that section of the bookstore, limited its sales. If so, that is a shame.
May 30, 2011 at 8:32 |
Bernie
Bernie
<<The reason I embarked on Do It Tomorrow, Autofocus, DWM, SF, etc. was because it's actually easier to teach a mechanical method. I was also very keen to find a mechanical method which used the power of the unconscious mind in the way that Dreams did.>>
Mark, I was actually struck by this as I read _Dreams_ shortly after learning SFv3. Learning about Pull led me to see "standing out" as a filter for tasks where I felt that Pull. It was like cutting through all the visioning and dialoging and just going for whatever Pull was already there, latent, in the subconscious. Of course, this is more limited than the _Dreams_ method, because it means passively accepting whatever vision you have grown to accept at the moment, rather than working to shape your vision. But at least you get work in Pull mode, which is quite a lot of fun!
I have really enjoyed the vast majority of my SFv3 tasks, whether or not they were ultimately worth doing. I am convinced that SF will continue to be my way of reminding myself to do the little things while I am working on my _Dreams_ goals, doing both the little things and the big things in Pull mode, writing down only the things that I'd otherwise forget, in an extremely lightweight system ... isn't that the holy grail of time management?
We shall see whether SF fades away or not as I progress through the exercises.
Mark, I was actually struck by this as I read _Dreams_ shortly after learning SFv3. Learning about Pull led me to see "standing out" as a filter for tasks where I felt that Pull. It was like cutting through all the visioning and dialoging and just going for whatever Pull was already there, latent, in the subconscious. Of course, this is more limited than the _Dreams_ method, because it means passively accepting whatever vision you have grown to accept at the moment, rather than working to shape your vision. But at least you get work in Pull mode, which is quite a lot of fun!
I have really enjoyed the vast majority of my SFv3 tasks, whether or not they were ultimately worth doing. I am convinced that SF will continue to be my way of reminding myself to do the little things while I am working on my _Dreams_ goals, doing both the little things and the big things in Pull mode, writing down only the things that I'd otherwise forget, in an extremely lightweight system ... isn't that the holy grail of time management?
We shall see whether SF fades away or not as I progress through the exercises.
May 30, 2011 at 8:44 |
Bernie
Bernie
<re-type your future reality afresh daily.> <"That's a lot of work". >
Personally I journal a lot and believe writing out the vision is more visceral and engages more of who I am in the vision. It's also an act of loving kindness to myself to dedicate some time to what I want from living, or else what's the point of outer productivity when inner qualities come second. So it's not so much work as play or priority. For me the process has led to seeking the qualities in experiences - aceptance, tolerance, joy, patience, peace as "goals". It's the quality of being that is the real goal. The stuff is just the way to realise it or express it or allow it.
Personally I journal a lot and believe writing out the vision is more visceral and engages more of who I am in the vision. It's also an act of loving kindness to myself to dedicate some time to what I want from living, or else what's the point of outer productivity when inner qualities come second. So it's not so much work as play or priority. For me the process has led to seeking the qualities in experiences - aceptance, tolerance, joy, patience, peace as "goals". It's the quality of being that is the real goal. The stuff is just the way to realise it or express it or allow it.
May 30, 2011 at 8:44 |
michael
michael
Mark:
<<1) I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
I'll risk a bit more monotony by agreeing one last time tonight. ;)
I dutifully constructed the small, short-term goal of setting up my desk for better productivity and ergonomics. My desk is actually so uncomfortable and stupidly arranged at the moment that I completely avoid it in favor of a really wonderful chair in the family room.
While this project was important to me and had been nagging me for a while, there were so many other bigger things popping into my mind as I read on, that it was hard to step back and get excited about a desk. I went many days not working on it at all, because I did not feel like it (though I continued rewriting the vision and Present Reality), and a few times I used the "I'll just get the folder out" technique, which is kind of a soft-peddled Push mode.
The past few days, I have been tempted to break the rules and skip ahead to the larger vision, so I will take your comment above as license to do so. I did make progress on the desk, just not a whole lot—though I hyped the heck out of it on my What's Better list!
<<1) I think I need to encourage people to take the initial step of faith - acting according to their feelings - at an early stage. This probably means going direct to the overall vision and not testing out the system on single goals beforehand.>>
I'll risk a bit more monotony by agreeing one last time tonight. ;)
I dutifully constructed the small, short-term goal of setting up my desk for better productivity and ergonomics. My desk is actually so uncomfortable and stupidly arranged at the moment that I completely avoid it in favor of a really wonderful chair in the family room.
While this project was important to me and had been nagging me for a while, there were so many other bigger things popping into my mind as I read on, that it was hard to step back and get excited about a desk. I went many days not working on it at all, because I did not feel like it (though I continued rewriting the vision and Present Reality), and a few times I used the "I'll just get the folder out" technique, which is kind of a soft-peddled Push mode.
The past few days, I have been tempted to break the rules and skip ahead to the larger vision, so I will take your comment above as license to do so. I did make progress on the desk, just not a whole lot—though I hyped the heck out of it on my What's Better list!
May 30, 2011 at 8:57 |
Bernie
Bernie
avrum:
<< I'm wondering if you're rethinking the fantastical for the more practical (I hope not - I really like the idea of jotting down a wild plan as fodder for the unconscious). >>
I'm not sure that it really matters where you start - with a huge fantastic vision which you then refine down - or with a narrow realistic vision which you then expand out. The important thing is that it ends up fitting you exactly.
When I wrote "Dreams" I was in a very different situation from what I am in now so it's not surprising that my vision is different. I think that the very detailed fantasy vision I gave then was in fact in the nature of the "Earn a million dollars" goal which I talk about in the book. A goal like that can become a burden until you work out why you want it. Once you've done that you can often achieve what you want more directly. That should all come out as you work on the vision.
As I said earlier one of the failings of the Dreams book was not to show more about the development of the Future Reality.
<< I'm wondering if you're rethinking the fantastical for the more practical (I hope not - I really like the idea of jotting down a wild plan as fodder for the unconscious). >>
I'm not sure that it really matters where you start - with a huge fantastic vision which you then refine down - or with a narrow realistic vision which you then expand out. The important thing is that it ends up fitting you exactly.
When I wrote "Dreams" I was in a very different situation from what I am in now so it's not surprising that my vision is different. I think that the very detailed fantasy vision I gave then was in fact in the nature of the "Earn a million dollars" goal which I talk about in the book. A goal like that can become a burden until you work out why you want it. Once you've done that you can often achieve what you want more directly. That should all come out as you work on the vision.
As I said earlier one of the failings of the Dreams book was not to show more about the development of the Future Reality.
May 30, 2011 at 10:27 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
avrum:
<< did you (or your clients) encounter any superstitious stumbling blocks around stating things like: "My health will be better than ever..." or "My new baby girl is doing...". >>
Interesting question which I've never thought of before in quite those terms.
I think it's important not to include things over which one has no or little control. This is why in the book I advise against targeting people by name. So I said I have four clients paying me £1m a year, rather than I have celebrities X, X, X and X as my clients. It would also be a lot better to put "I have got married to a wonderful woman" rather than "Mary and I have got married", especially if Mary has shown no signs of being interested yet!
In the same way with health and family members we are talking about what we have control over. If your vision is giving you superstitious problems, that's probably because you are trying to use it as a lucky charm rather than as a spur to action. So you should take your superstitious feelings as a signal that you need to reword your vision.
<< did you (or your clients) encounter any superstitious stumbling blocks around stating things like: "My health will be better than ever..." or "My new baby girl is doing...". >>
Interesting question which I've never thought of before in quite those terms.
I think it's important not to include things over which one has no or little control. This is why in the book I advise against targeting people by name. So I said I have four clients paying me £1m a year, rather than I have celebrities X, X, X and X as my clients. It would also be a lot better to put "I have got married to a wonderful woman" rather than "Mary and I have got married", especially if Mary has shown no signs of being interested yet!
In the same way with health and family members we are talking about what we have control over. If your vision is giving you superstitious problems, that's probably because you are trying to use it as a lucky charm rather than as a spur to action. So you should take your superstitious feelings as a signal that you need to reword your vision.
May 30, 2011 at 10:45 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
I thought it might be useful to post today's version of my Future Reality:
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are fully put into practice. Everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is so well-ordered that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic in a life that is spacious and full of energy. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for creation and this results in some amazing friendships.
Here's yesterday's for comparison:
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are successfully put into practice. I love the feeling that everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is extremely well-ordered, so that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic and my life is spacious and exciting. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for life, and I take care to maintain those relationships.
You will note that, as before, the content is much the same, but there are some subtle changes in the flow. The biggest change is in the part about friendships.
So far my Present Reality is much more about how I do things than about what I do. Whether it will stay that way I have no idea.
I wrote it about four hours ago, and already I can see a few changes I want to make!
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are fully put into practice. Everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is so well-ordered that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic in a life that is spacious and full of energy. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for creation and this results in some amazing friendships.
Here's yesterday's for comparison:
I am living a creative life in which the principles of "Dreams" are successfully put into practice. I love the feeling that everything I set my hands to comes to fruition effortlessly. My life is extremely well-ordered, so that I am free to do what I want to do and create what I want to create. I feel boundlessly optimistic and my life is spacious and exciting. One of my best creations is that I am extremely healthy and fit. I attract people who share my enthusiasm for life, and I take care to maintain those relationships.
You will note that, as before, the content is much the same, but there are some subtle changes in the flow. The biggest change is in the part about friendships.
So far my Present Reality is much more about how I do things than about what I do. Whether it will stay that way I have no idea.
I wrote it about four hours ago, and already I can see a few changes I want to make!
May 30, 2011 at 13:20 |
Mark Forster
Mark Forster
<<I thought it might be useful to post today's version of my Future Reality:>>
Mark - a few days ago I asked about speaking (into a recorder) vs writing (as you've done) the future/present realities. I prefer to record these as I walk - though I'm not sure if I'm getting the full effect. Do you have any evidence to suggest that writing trumps recording the spoken word? Have you tried recording the audio? Curious.
Mark - a few days ago I asked about speaking (into a recorder) vs writing (as you've done) the future/present realities. I prefer to record these as I walk - though I'm not sure if I'm getting the full effect. Do you have any evidence to suggest that writing trumps recording the spoken word? Have you tried recording the audio? Curious.
May 30, 2011 at 14:24 |
avrum
avrum
Michael:
<<...dedicate some time to what I want from living, or else what's the point of outer productivity when inner qualities come second>>
Nicely put.
<<...dedicate some time to what I want from living, or else what's the point of outer productivity when inner qualities come second>>
Nicely put.
May 30, 2011 at 15:14 |
avrum
avrum





If it's an anxiety-producing goal won't you need to re-frame it to highlight its gains and rewards to be motivating enough? Surely the anxiety will act as a brake on enthusiasm?